Safe Speed Forums

On the front page of the Southampton Echo today is a report that "members of the public trained as traffic monitors" will be operating in the Lyndhurst area. They will work by standing next to speed indicating signs and noting down registration numbers of "speeders" to give to the police who will then write to the alleged offender. Repeat letters could flag up the need for a speed camera it is reported.

I wonder if they will report anyone they personally know? Their neighbours perhaps? Good for community relations to get a letter from the law about an "offence" that has no proof. I suppose that the letter will remain on your ID card file for life. Guilty until proven innocent?

If I follow one of the volunteers home, see them exceeding any limit and report them do you suppose they will think this is fair game?

Quisling Lunacy!!

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

Sounds like a recipe for the human rights lot to step in and make some cash for harassment.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

yes yes thats the right idea
and......and......and.......and.......and.........pace cars too



cos we need self rightous bumholes policeing people.

why did you not think of this paul Humm??
bet you feel silly now the answer is so clear.



Have thown keyboard at wall and gone to calm down.

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All you need do is clone the plate of the chief constable, and swing by their jolly little scheme a few times, with a generous helping of extra throttle.... and bob's your uncle!!

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

Haha! Or the local SCP's vans...
I mean that would be wrong.

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Andrew.

And what will the letter say I wonder......


How about this one..
"Normaly we would be able to bust your ass for sixty quid and three points but since it is a bunch of in-bred local f*ckwits holding the camera all we can do is send you this snotty letter"

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Speed camera policy Kills

How accurate are these speed indication signs and are they home office approved for use as speed measuring devices?

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

When they say speed indicating signs - do they mean regular limit signs or VAS?

To me the worrying thing about the growth of this sort of "initiative" is that must only be a matter of time before some less rational motorist stops and thumps them. Not a good idea for community relations I suspect.

It seems as though we see a report of this kind of scheme being brought in almost every week.

But I would imagine the attraction of standing in the pouring rain and freezing cold with a speed gun rapidly fades when they realise that:

(a) they can't actually get anyone prosecuted, and
(b) it's their friends and neighbours who are getting snotty letters

You never see a report of "The Little Snotworthy Speedwatch Scheme - Two Years of Success", do you?

I'd like to bet most wither and die within six months, or at the very least the level of activity greatly tails off.

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

They're not going to have a speed gun, they're going to stand by the VAS signs (uncalibrated) and note the reg nos. of vehicles whose indicated speeds are over the set limit. They have no powers or authority.
Now, that seems to make them ripe for a bit of sport. There's nothing such people like less than having the p**s taken out of them, so let's do just that. Creep past at 5 mph and laugh at them, stop and ask if you have got Fastes Time of the Day and if not can you go back for another run. The possibilities are endless! What fun! You could even have a laught by engaging in a lot of correspondence with the Old Bill should you receive a letter based on this activity.

Equally good sport would be for you to "note down" the registrations of the people manning the scheme and "report" them to the police for exceeding the speed limit too, insisting that they then get a snotty letter as the evidence against them is of equal weight to that used to justify letters to others...

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Ticketo ergo sum : I scam therefore I am!

Haha, excellent! Strangely, I'm now almost wishing for them to implement a similar scheme ronud here...

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Carl Prescott

There have been a couple of similar schemes locally but as others have said the follow up reports of their success seem strangely absent.

I suspect apathy sets in once they realise that...

1. Most of those "noisy hooligans" aren't going anywhere near as fast as they think,
2. Most of the serial speeders are their neighbours and friends
3. Standing watching cars is excruciatingly boring, 'specially when it rains,
4. There is an ever present risk of having their speed gun applied as a suppository by some irate motorist. (copyright (C) Cooperman for that statement, many moons ago...)

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CSCP Latin for beginners...
Ticketo ergo sum : I scam therefore I am!

It is frequently claimed that going a few miles an hour faster than the sign says is highly dangerous (Mr Brunstrom has compared it to sliding a knide into someone.)

If it's really so dangerous, why are they sending members of the public right into the firing line? If there was a knife attacker in the area, would the police send local residents to confront him? Is it possible they don't really believe it is that dangerous?

Very good point.
They can be held liable if one of the residents is injured for whatever reason, whether or not there's any danger, or thought to be any danger.
Perhaps pointing this out to them will kill off these schemes.

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Only when ideology, prejudice and dogma are set aside does the truth emerge - Kepler

I reckon the SCPs are trying to drum up support any way they can, this time by giving a recognised purpose to these ‘hitler youth’ who quite obviously don’t have a life of their own.
The SCPs are getting desperate.







EDIT:

It has become clear that a certain well known internet troll is trying to use this comment out of the context for which it was meant.

By spindrift on varous webpages:
"You should really apologise for what you wrote on Safespeed , havinge
an opinon on road safety is fine but comparing yourself to persecuted
jews suggests to me that you have some perspective issue.

Would you like to explain why you compare yourself to persecuted jews"

It is Spindrift (and the various persona of) who has made the Jewish inference, not I as can be clearly seen from the text above (unedited in full). The events of that regime touch the lives of a great many people the world over, not just the Jewish.

I have merely highlighted the parallel of those who blindly sacrifice much of their personal resource to sycophantically support a corrupt regime, one that is using propaganda and lies to help keep their position in society, knowingly at the cost of lives. I have already explained this directly to this person but he refuses to take any heed.

No apology is necessary.

This same person is also responsible for spreading lies and unfounded rumours around the Internet regarding the founder of the SS campaign.

Wasn't this what went on back in the early days of Nazi Germany - neighbours encouraged to inform on each other?
What next, the police paying speeders nocturnal visits and dragging us off to correction camps?

I had the pleasure of driving through one of these residents-only things a while back, some sort of protest about the limit for traffic going through the village. They had made chicanes out of parked cars to make traffic jams and then screamed obscenities at you as you crawled past - all very friendly

Complete quote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3127351.stm

If you saw the south today report it quite funny. cas driving past safly then a cop car on blues and twos reced past at 6000 revs and about 60mph. very inappropriate speed for the location.
(The soton-Brocknhurst section of Lyndhurst one way system)

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

Oh, the nice wide bit with the "It's 30 for a reason " sign there already!

I've always wondered what the reason was:

"Because local pensioners with nothing else to think about keep hassling the police for their own speedgun"