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BBC Look East this evening had a case where a motorist was accused of 84mph, but the case was dropped by the CPS who, the story reports, admit an error was made. The video disclosed to him appears to show a slip error as the camera pans down the side of the car and then registers 84mph.

9mins 55 sec in Would imagine it'll only be there until tomorrow.

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Less Kodak, more Kojak.
In times of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

haha... the video is great... the 84mph occurs as the car comes in to view over the hill closing up on a lorry... the reading _must_ have been down the side of the car as you cant see the front fully.

by the time he pulls out and passes it reads 62mph... the time to overtake looks consistent with the speed at which he first appears.

thats just shoddy jobsworthsness !

It's a pity 'JJ' isn't here to explain why the speed reading is correct and the CPS were wrong to drop the case.

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Less Kodak, more Kojak.
In times of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

The thing's wobbling all over the place. Also, how did the operator take 3 seconds to estimate the vehicles speed?

ok so what does it mean then?

I guess it's one of those virtual errors. Shows an error but isn't really an error.

But Steve Callaghan has insisted, at very great length on the BBC site, that this can't happen in real life, whereas this video shows that not to be true. So Steve appears to have said something not entirely true. Fancy that.

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Carl Prescott

now you're just making things up, not being a highly qualified engineer you just don't have the technical expertise to understand what the video is telling us.

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4338

oh its ok... the mistake was just a mistake

What annoys me, is that we don't know how injustices have resulted from this 'error' or from the slip effect. Surely someone within the SCP must have seen this 'evidence' and thought "this doesn't look right". Perhaps they haven't clue themselves. What is clear from the video, is that a number of 'guidelines have been flouted.

Surely too, this case would have been in the public interest therefore should have proceeded. Instead it was dropped, why? I wonder indeed. This is the problem with automation, they rely upon those who simply pay the fines, accept the points then shutup. How many people have been wrongly convicted? I should imagine it's more widespread than we know.

I think you're tending to over-estimate the intelligence employed and to under-estimate the almost evangelical mindset. Don't forget that they are on a mission to save lives...



Ahhh...

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Actually I think that is incorrect.
They dont specify saving LIVES, they actually say REDUCING KSI, so as long as the Serious Injuries outstrip any increase in Killed, the job is as good as done.
Afterall, this has been pointed out to us whenever we have highlighted FATALITIES are up, they respond with "We cannot influence accidents not caused by speed, however killed and serious injuries accidents are down.

SAVING lives?? Not an issue on any SCP website I have looked at, except in the press releases!

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

The SCP's raison d'etre will always be whatever the latest statistical blip is that puts them in the best possible light. If no statistics are positive they have still got the old fall back "Speeds at camera sites are lower then elsewhere". Wow, well done!

That's just part of the evangelical ignore the facts process.

See this google for the less guarded moments when the true mindset appears... (again and again and again...)

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

I like THISGoogle....

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

"It must be stressed from the outset that this campaign is about safety and not income generation"

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