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As I may have mentioned before, I run a high-tech recruitment business.
I have been asked to recruit an Engineering Design Team Leader at a high salary for a well known aerospace company. The qualifications incluce certain acedemic levels plus the ability to hold approvals for sign-off for flight in terms of design and stress analysis.
I have found a suitable candidate, but he won't be considered because he has 6 current camera-generated points on his licence. Both sets were for road works limits, one at 46 in a 40 at 23-00 hours on the M25 and the other for 49 in a 40 on another M'way. Our clients would like to employ him, but as he will be a nominated signatory on their aerospace documentation and as a large mileage is involved in the UK they daren't offer him the job in case he gets banned and they lose their ability to meet the approval requirements of the CAA.
If he had conviction for minor dishonesty, fraud, assault, drunk & disorderly, drug dealing, theft or similar there would be no problems. However, he's a driver, so his career must be limited because he has a couple of minor motoring convictions.
They wonder why drivers drive whilst disqualified or fail to declare their convictions by using a duplicate and points-free licence. It's becoming crazy in this country.

Personally I'd employ him anyway but insist he buys himself a road angel navigator and possibly the insurance against points which provides you will a chauffer should you get banned. Both sides are then happy!

More proof that it's all down to money really!! Ever thought of raising this issue with your local MP Coops?

Mind you, unless he's Tory, he'll probably be 100% in agreement that the chap shouldn't be employed.

Is that really a job that absolutely requires someone to hold a driving licence in the first place?

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Ist amazing how many job application form now ask about penalty point - even one for teaching....per my cousin Jess und sister-in-law.

Firm which employs me - if person will have use of company pool car - then they will now allow three point. Before this was zero. If they are reps - or on the road most of day - firm will recruit IAM driver in preference - even if sitting on 6 points...

But firm has also provided all driver with the useful gadget anyway after the trio who got copped for silliest speeds in LanCASH££££re! They all did the Speed Course - all thought it well run und a good course - but targetting wrong driver - the just overs at time. They claim to have revised policy for invites following portest letters in local press - but we still hear stories of the 34mph invitations It undermine it...

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Yes, in fairness to my client the successful candidate will be driving a high mileage. He/she will also be a nominated authorising person under the airline's approval, so it's a critical position and one in which it's not easily possible to substitute for.
For example, if a Boeing 737 has a baggage truck driven into it (yes, it happens) and a repair is necessary, the Boeing will be AOG (that's Aircraft on Ground) at an airport remote from base. A decision on what repair is to be undertaken must be made quickly to get the aircraft flying, so the Design Engineer will need to be on-site at the other location very quickly to make the decision, then to sign off the approval for the repair. Think of the level of responsibility for human life involved in those decisions, then compare that with minor exceeding of an arbitrary speed limit.
This is not a particularly unusual decision not to offer employment either. Camera points are a factor in securing new employment in many companies these days.

Could he not have a chauffeur clause in his contract, whereby if he gets banned the company will provide a driver? My brother, a company director cut his arm quite badly while putting the rubbish out, and couldn't drive for a considerable length of time but the company picked up the tab for a driver. Could that not be a possibility, in the unlikely event he is banned?

I was just thinking if there might be circumstances where a job, where holding a driving licence was perhaps desirable but not essential, might be offered to a non-driver, but not to a driver with nine points, which is clearly bonkers.

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