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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 00:34 
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The 18mph taxi driver clocked ‘doing 50mph’ by misfiring speed camera
Mark Shields Tuesday, January 29, 2013 2:03 PM

Andrew Constantine, who fought his speeding ticket in court and won. Andrew Constantine, who fought his speeding ticket in court and won.

A Norwich taxi driver has won his battle against prosecution for a speeding offence – by proving the speed camera which snapped him got it wrong.
Traffic passing the speed camera at Drayton. Traffic passing the speed camera at Drayton. Photo: Bill Smith
Father-of-two Andrew Constantine, below, says he was left “angry and bewildered” after being prosecuted for driving at 50mph – when he was in fact doing less than 18mph.

Now concerns have been raised at how many other drivers have been wrongly caught by the camera on Fakenham Road in Drayton despite its pictures contradicting the radar speed reading.

Mr Constantine had to spend £1,600 and wait 11 months to clear his name in court after being accused of breaking the 30mph speed limit on February 9 last year.
However, a spokesman for Norfolk Constabulary said it was not aware the ticket was being challenged until yesterday and if it has been told about the precise nature of the case at an earlier opportunity, it would not have reached court.

The case against 47-year-old Andrew Constantine was withdrawn yesterday, as a trial was due to begin, after a simple piece of maths proved he had been travelling at around one-third of the speed the camera radar had suggested.
Two pictures taken by the camera, half a second apart, showed Mr Constantine’s car had travelled four metres over the white speed-trap road markings – which should be used as a second measure of the speed – meaning he was travelling at 17.8mph.

Speaking after the hearing yesterday, Mr Constantine said: “I’m very pleased and very relieved.
“Being called to court induces a sense of trepidation, even if someone is completely innocent.
“It was nice to walk into court innocent, leave court innocent and to be completely vindicated.”
Having travelled the road “thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of times”, Mr Constantine said he was aware of the camera and had been driving cautiously, as the paying passenger he had on board was a woman in her 80s, and was certain he had not been speeding.
“I have an instinct to check my speed,” he said. “Some other people may have just taken the medicine and accepted it, but I was innocent.”

Mr Constantine covers more than 70,000 miles a year in his job for Enterprise Taxis and said he felt “a cocktail of exasperation, anger, shock and bewilderment” when told of the charge.
He took his case to a specialist motoring offences lawyer, who identified that the two photographs contradicted the radar speed reading.
It is not clear what caused the incorrect reading from the camera, though Mr Constantine speculated the reading may have been taken from another vehicle.
Because the case was withdrawn, Mr Constantine could see around 75pc of his legal fees refunded – but is still likely to be left out of pocket.

A Norfolk police spokesman said data and images from the cameras were viewed by staff in the Criminal Justice Unit and fixed penalty notices were issued where necessary.
“In this case, an FPN was issued in error; however we were not notified that this ticket was being challenged until [Monday] morning,” she said.
“The file was reviewed and we have supported the withdrawal of this prosecution.
“If we had been alerted to the precise nature of the challenge at an earlier opportunity, this case would not have reached court.”
She added every camera is tested prior to installation, then calibrated annually, and said the Fakenham Road camera had been activated 141 times in 2011.

Reader Poll (23:20 on 29.1.13)
Do you think speed cameras provide reliable evidence?

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Also reported here : http://swns.com/news/taxi-driver-speedi ... mph-30817/
& by the Daily Mail : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... paign=1490

I find it odd that the Police / CPS would not know ?
If you contest the NIP they are notified and his Lawyer will have done that - surely ?

So if they are only calibrated once a year (and there have been questions of the validity of previous calibration certificates) then once an error is found, how often do they go back and how far back do they go to ensure that those drivers who might have received a NIP in error are reimbursed or told their NIP is rescinded !
how many innocent people have just accepted a fine or a SAC ?

Also we need to have justice and he needs not only all his money refunded but compensation too !

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SSV2 wrote:
So if they are only calibrated once a year (and there have been questions of the validity of previous calibration certificates) then once an error is found, how often do they go back and how far back do they go to ensure that those drivers who might have received a NIP in error are reimbursed or told their NIP is rescinded !

If you accept the penalty, you are by definition admitting your guilt. Thus you will not be subject to any compensation if the equipment is later found to be faulty. If you had protested your innocence and were found to be guilty in court, then you would have a good chance of recompense as the evidence would be flawed.

With this camera being triggered only 114 times in a year, this is not exactly a money spinner for them but seems to be achieving its aim..

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Rediculous Great Britian wrote:
Because the case was withdrawn, Mr Constantine could see around 75pc of his legal fees refunded – but is still likely to be left out of pocket.
Hang on a minute FFS!!!

Not only should he not lose a single penny, but should be compensated for... libel, slander, wrongful accusation, stress???

This is pathetic!

It relies on 'the system is too great and the majority of us pawns/plebs can't fight the system'.

He won, if you can call it that. (Which I don't!). How many have lost or would just lie down and die...£££

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A Norfolk police spokesman said data and images from the cameras were viewed by staff in the Criminal Justice Unit and fixed penalty notices were issued where necessary.

And the staff in the viewing section hang the white sticks on the racks, after putting the guide dog in ithe kennels .

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This sounds like so many public sector organisations, where they really mean to say...

."yes we know we are incompetent but we couldn't possibly admit it and even if we are incompetent, we are still superior to the poor sod on the street, who we don't give a toss about."

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I note that someone is missing to tell us that cameras and SCP staff are infallable and give us his "expert" opinion of what went wrong . :wink:

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Good job it wasn't a Redspeed camera - he'd have had no chance of proving himself innocent!

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As we have seen time and time again there is no checking of the images done other than reading the number plate.


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Homer wrote:
As we have seen time and time again there is no checking of the images done other than reading the number plate.


Strange how their eyesight returns to normal to do that .I'd not be surprised to find that the make/model of the vehicle is not checked either .

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