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And from that last lot,weepy, you fail to consider those who find that more than a short walk is excessive. At the moment ,I'm suffering from a groin strain, so my normal short walk to the nearby garage has been replaced with a short trip in the car. I'm also waiting for the results of an X ray on my hip. Another reason why I use the car for what a lot of folk would consider short trips. It might be short to you ,but I know that if I were to walk it,I'd end up with pains in my back ,as the trip to the garage is uphill.So some of us have to drive "almost everywhere". I could of course use my bus pass to go down town ( approx 2 miles) ,but the nearest bus stop is some distance .Add to that ,that in their infinite wisdom,HMG considers that my wife,although over 60 ,is too young to qualify. So more than two trips per week adds up to more than VED+INSURANCE + a moderate amount of fuel .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Not really, or so I thought. IFAIK most people, when referring to ‘The West’ mean all things associated with the so-called civilized world like T.Vs, tarmacadam roads, ‘the pill’, cars, a Tuxedo etc. etc. Although I concede even the Wiki definition is a bit woolly

Well, unless you want me to find exactly where you said it, I’m sure you once said you cycle across London every day to work about 20 miles a day, or just the one way? It was something like that because I was quite impressed at the time - and made me feel like my 9 mile round trip was a bit wimpish.

Tut tut. I may as well point it out before anyone else does but: The attitude of many or most cyclists in London leaves a lot to be desired, so I keep being told. And as for cyclists and “some of the junctions”. (Big cough!). Cyclists in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones?


Ok, but I don’t expect it’s a common sight then, as they zoom past the folk fetching water from 10 miles away on their heads.


Yup, you hate the 40mph you did last week because they changed it to a since. Yup, no flies on you...

Well, I sincerely hope you’re right on that one, and for Brum and other cities...

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

botach, only you think I was suggesting people who are unable to walk or cycle such distances because of ailments and disabilities shouldn't use their car.

On the flip side, if those that didn't need to use their car for such journeys abstained you'd find your (necessary) car journey easier and quicker.

I'm about to set off actually, 17 miles each way, I go the long way round quite regularly cos I enjoy the ride so much (and the longer route goes via a veeeery good caff that serves the BEST bacon rolls), how many other forms of transport would people purposefully pick the long way round cos they enjoy the longer route?



Many or most? Reduced to generalising there then?

I'm not in a glass house Tone, I don't jump red lights, many don't, some do. Lots of people in cars do too (shooting late reds is very common for people in motorised vehicles, I'd say the last two vehicles through pretty much always jump the red).

Unless you think I'm in a glass house simply because I ride a cycle sometimes? Do you apply such lazy prejudices in other parts of your life?

And don't you regularly cycle along on the pavement? I'd never do that unless it was designated shared use, so it sounds like it's you in the glass house right?

Car drivers for one.(unless I'm in the minority) I often take a longer route because it is more scenic/less tiring/avoids pointless manufactured congestion caused by un-necessary traffic lights.

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

Pretty funny coming from someone who immediately prior to making this statement was complaining about generalisations.

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

I frequently walk up to 15 miles and end up back where I started for a total distance travelled of exactly zero.

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

Think you'll find that a lot of the talk of westernisation suggests that more than you think that it's what you're suggesting

Why ? - on many a trip to the garage,I'd still use the car .I don't go there for fuel -too dear,but the shop has a lot of stuff ( eg milk) at very comparative prices . And one of the problems going short trips in this area are cyclists,who think pavements are cyclepaths .

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

What, all of them?

Yes .Regular stream of kami kazi cyclists.Sorry, more like joy bikers.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on