weepej wrote:
Tone, you wrote "western lifestyle" like we're obliged to drive our cars everywhere.
Not really, or so I thought. IFAIK most people, when referring to ‘The West’ mean all things associated with the so-called civilized world like T.Vs, tarmacadam roads, ‘the pill’, cars, a Tuxedo etc. etc. Although I concede even the Wiki definition is a bit
woollyweepej wrote:
I don't claim to use it all the time, sometimes I use my car, and sometimes I walk and sometimes I get the bus/tube, heck, sometime I even get a boat!
Well, unless you want me to find exactly where you said it, I’m sure you once said you cycle across London every day to work about 20 miles a day, or just the one way? It was something like that because I was quite impressed at the time - and made me feel like my 9 mile round trip was a bit wimpish.
weepej wrote:
Big Tone wrote:
in arguably the worst Western city in Europe for cycling
It's pretty bad is some respects, but absolutely brilliant in others. It's fantastic to cycle in, so much to see, just some of the junctions and attitudes are from the "motorist is the king of society" 60s.
Tut tut.
I may as well point it out before anyone else does but: The attitude of many or most cyclists in London leaves a lot to be desired, so I keep being told. And as for cyclists and “some of the junctions”. (Big cough!). Cyclists in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones?
weepej wrote:
Big Tone wrote:
isn't exactly something you might see in, let's pick, Ethiopia.
DD
Ethiopian cycling team:
http://www.marcopolocyclingteam.com/en/ ... exmond.jpg Ok, but I don’t expect it’s a common sight then, as they zoom past the folk fetching water from 10 miles away on their heads.
weepej wrote:
Big Tone wrote:
speeding
Yup, hate that.
Yup, you hate the 40mph you did last week because they changed it to a
since.
Yup, no flies on you...
weepej wrote:
Big Tone wrote:
and what you believe to be such an aggressive anti-cycling culture so much wtf, and why, did you pick London of all places to live/work
Because I believe it can change to be better than it already is, just like Amsterdam did 30 years ago.
Well, I sincerely hope you’re right on that one, and for Brum and other cities...