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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 00:44 
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For Sale signs stopping drivers in their tracks... not to view hot properties but because they look just like speed cameras
By Daily Mail Reporter - Last updated at 10:04 AM on 26th May 2010

An estate agent who prides herself on 'having a wealth of experience and knowledge in marketing' has been getting her business noticed for all the wrong reasons.
Jennie Jones's distinctive black and yellow 'For Sale' signs have been fooling motorists into thinking they are speed cameras.
The signs, which have been erected outside properties in Suffolk by the local agent, have been prompting drivers to brake as they pass by.
From a distance, the signs bear a remarkable resemblance to the yellow boxes that contain speed cameras, and it seems their presence is having a dramatic effect on speeding.
As cars near the signs, drivers are applying their brakes in response to the unmissable canary yellow square.

In Leicestershire, a disgruntled resident has erected a fake speed camera made out of a cornflake box to force drivers to slow down.
The signs, which have been erected outside properties in Suffolk by the local agent, have been prompting drivers to brake as they pass by.
The dummy speed camera, which has been painted yellow and black, was fixed to a wooden telegraph pole over the weekend.
It is believed the resident who made it was fed up at drivers repeatedly ignoring the 30mph speed limit on Saxby Road, Melton Mowbray, Leics.
One driver said: 'I thought it was the real thing and anyone coming round the bend from the traffic lights with Norman Way will catch it out the corner of their eye.
From a distance, the signs bear a remarkable resemblance to the yellow boxes that contain speed cameras 'I think it would be a good thing if it helped to slow some people down.'

A Leicestershire County Council spokeswoman said: 'We expect motorists to drive at appropriate speeds and do appreciate residents' concerns but don't encourage people to take action by putting up their own speed camera.'

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IT will be interesting to see how many accidents occur because of drivers being 'distracted' by these signs.

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It will be less of an issue when motorists after paying it attention then realise that it is not a 'hazard' and relax.
Have you not noticed yourself observing all manner of things that are yellowish as potential cameras ?

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Have you not noticed yourself observing all manner of things that are yellowish as potential cameras ?



Why, because you're speeding at the time?


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Have you not noticed yourself observing all manner of things that are yellowish as potential cameras ?



Why, because you're speeding at the time?

Perhaps because you want to ensure you're well within, even if you were within the limit. I've watched others drive past cameras (as a passenger), their checking the speedo 3-4 times on close approach is a regular occurrence - even though they were within the limit in the first place.

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I've watched others drive past cameras (as a passenger), their checking the speedo 3-4 times on close approach is a regular occurrence - even though they were within the limit in the first place.


There's a camera on a 40mph road which I regularly use. Very often I see the car, or cars, in front of me doing around 30mph and they STILL brake when they reach the camera.

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There's a camera on a 40mph road which I regularly use. Very often I see the car, or cars, in front of me doing around 30mph and they STILL brake when they reach the camera.


That'll be propaganda put out by anti-automated monitoring organisations like Safe Speed that cameras will do you even if you're not speeding.


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That'll be propaganda put out by anti-automated monitoring organisations like Safe Speed that cameras will do you even if you're not speeding.


No, that would be the ACTUAL experience of PEOPLE WHO I KNOW WELL.

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weepej wrote:
That'll be propaganda put out by anti-automated monitoring organisations like Safe Speed that cameras will do you even if you're not speeding.


No, that would be the ACTUAL experience of PEOPLE WHO I KNOW WELL.


Hmm, I've driven through hundreds of speed traps hundreds of times at the limit and never got a ticket. Nor crashed off the road staring at my speedo.


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There's a camera on a 40mph road which I regularly use. Very often I see the car, or cars, in front of me doing around 30mph and they STILL brake when they reach the camera.


That'll be propaganda put out by anti-automated monitoring organisations like Safe Speed that cameras will do you even if you're not speeding.

That'll be propaganda put out by anti-anti-automated monitoring folks. :roll:

What planet have you been living on? I frequently see drivers braking to 25 in a 40 limit when passing a camera.

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weepej wrote:
That'll be propaganda put out by anti-automated monitoring organisations like Safe Speed that cameras will do you even if you're not speeding.


No, that would be the ACTUAL experience of PEOPLE WHO I KNOW WELL.


Hmm, I've driven through hundreds of speed traps hundreds of times at the limit and never got a ticket. Nor crashed off the road staring at my speedo.

Non-sequitur!
Your logic doesn't follow. We're talking about slowing even when at a legal speed. I've also driven past 'hundreds' of speed traps and never got a ticket, but I still watch the speedo and slow even when already at a legal speed - and I've watched other drivers do exactly the same (me watching as a passenger).

What was it you always said about risk: just because it hasn't happened to you, it doesn't mean it won't - "firing bullets into crowds" and all that :roll:

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Hmm, I've driven through hundreds of speed traps hundreds of times at the limit and never got a ticket. Nor crashed off the road staring at my speedo.


Perhaps not fixed cameras, but mobile cameras, definitely.
But just for the record, neither have I.

Also just for the record, I've been driving for the best part of 40 years, and I've NEVER hit a pedestrian - come to think of it, I don't know anyone who has.
By your reckoning, I should have killed a few hundred by now.

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Hmm, I've driven through hundreds of speed traps hundreds of times at the limit and never got a ticket. Nor crashed off the road staring at my speedo.


Perhaps not fixed cameras, but mobile cameras, definitely.
But just for the record, neither have I.

Also just for the record, I've been driving for the best part of 40 years, and I've NEVER hit a pedestrian - come to think of it, I don't know anyone who has.
By your reckoning, I should have killed a few hundred by now.


Got a few years on you -Pete , but likewise -between us ( according to the prophet weepy , ) -we should have decimated a small village( and a fleet of cyclists too) - in spite of their desire to commit HARI KARI - so why haven't we - and it's not just because we drive round them .

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Steve wrote:
I've watched others drive past cameras (as a passenger), their checking the speedo 3-4 times on close approach is a regular occurrence - even though they were within the limit in the first place.


There's a camera on a 40mph road which I regularly use. Very often I see the car, or cars, in front of me doing around 30mph and they STILL brake when they reach the camera.


I see this all the time as well. People driving under the speed limit and yet still braking when they get to the camera.


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Have you not noticed yourself observing all manner of things that are yellowish as potential cameras ?
Why, because you're speeding at the time?
I was asking you, if you have noticed during your observation of the road ahead, if you have found yourself taking additional notice, of anything that is of a yellow colour at or near the side of the road ?
It has nothing to do with speeding, but about observation and awareness while driving.
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There's a camera on a 40mph road which I regularly use. Very often I see the car, or cars, in front of me doing around 30mph and they STILL brake when they reach the camera.
That'll be propaganda put out by anti-automated monitoring organisations like Safe Speed that cameras will do you even if you're not speeding.
You credit us with much! However you are incorrect, we do not just 'single out' only one motoring aspect, nor do we ever tell people to pass a camera in any specific way, other than to comply with the Law.
Nearly all motorists want to be sure that they are not going to obtain a ticket, they need their livelihood, their vehicle, their transport, their lifestyle non-interfered with, plus, and of course, they wish to be legal, so they try to esure that they are totally legal. Some might slow to allow for the signs to (possibly) be wrong, so better safe than sorry and go 10mph lower than the apparent speed limit, as it is SO very hard to predict the speed of any road, since, the correlation between road type, and conditions, no longer relates to the likely speed limit. Signs can and have been wrong, the Press often reports this. No one wants a Court case, loosing masses of time and cost penalties, nor the stress and anxiety that comes with it.
So people want and try to be correct.
We learn shapes and colours as a quick recognition system. Since cameras have become so ingrained in our motoring culture, they are we instructed paramount to road safety, so we have learnt, that they are important and that we need to take notice, so we do. Therefor anything that looks like a camera grabs our attention more than almost anything else on the road, including things that we ought to be concentrating on too on occasion and sometimes with tragic consequences. (Hence my regular press points about "cameras are a big distraction, taking motorists attention away from the road ahead, and potentially missing vital & crucial early clues, to a hazard elsewhere, when we pass by a camera/s ... "

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weepej wrote:
That'll be propaganda put out by anti-automated monitoring organisations like Safe Speed that cameras will do you even if you're not speeding.


No, that would be the ACTUAL experience of PEOPLE WHO I KNOW WELL.


Hmm, I've driven through hundreds of speed traps hundreds of times at the limit and never got a ticket. Nor crashed off the road staring at my speedo.

You've also admitted on these forums to exceed the speed limit frequently, so I guess your luck is holding that you haven't done it in a camera zone. Either luck or you were staring at your speedo, and therefore a danger to other road users. I'm guessing that even though you exceed the speed limit, you have not driven into crowds of small children anytime recently?

By the way, it is noted that you avoided all the tricky questions that you couldn't answer in the other threads you have commented on!


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That'll be propaganda put out by anti-automated monitoring organisations like Safe Speed that cameras will do you even if you're not speeding.


Or possibly because some SCP don't check the photographs ( as they're supposed to ) in the hope that everybody getting a ticket will pay up ( because some didn't check their speed with the flash)( and there's another safety hazard directly attributed to "Safety Cameras " - drivers knowing they're under the limit ,mistrusting cameras ,but checking to make certain the flash didn't go off) the ,leading to ALL SCP getting tarred with the fraudulent claims brush ,the same way that SCP claim that it's safe to drive at all times just under the limit . And then I harp back to the horrendous crashes on the M40/42 IN FOG - where the fact that 65 was safe .(or so our West Mids SCP would have us believe) -so safe that the bottom end of the M42 was a virtual scrapheap.

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As a quickie, if I may, sort of about signs and not worth a separate thread...

I don’t know if anyone else is getting this in your area but with England fever going crazy I have seen many of these damn flag things littering the road. They are meant to stick in the window somehow, but clearly they are not secure.
I don’t know how they got past legislation because I think they’re a hazard myself. Try going around a bend on your bike and running over one Image

That's my moan for today.. :x

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As a quickie, if I may, sort of about signs and not worth a separate thread...

I don’t know if anyone else is getting this in your area but with England fever going crazy I have seen many of these damn flag things littering the road. They are meant to stick in the window somehow, but clearly they are not secure.
I don’t know how they got past legislation because I think they’re a hazard myself. Try going around a bend on your bike and running over one Image

That's my moan for today.. :x


Also. A lot of people are displaying large Crosses of Saint George in their windows or other parts of their houses. This extremely dangerous since motorists might think that these symbols of civil power are in some way associated with speed enforcement and suddenly slow down.
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i got distracted by vote liberal placards put up at the edge of farmland, luckily i quickly realised that the placards where the wrong shade of yellow

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i got distracted by vote liberal placards put up at the edge of farmland, luckily i quickly realised that the placards where the wrong shade of yellow


Yea -but the flash only cost you £60 .We don't have to keep it's partner just down the road :wink: :D

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