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 Post subject: Re: Ran stop light
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 22:37 
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Wow I couldn't have asked for more wisdom on this thread.

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The fact that you have analysed the problem and aware that you made a mistake will no doubt make you more aware of the hazard in the future and make you a safer driver. Be thankful you dont work on the railways - you got away with this one; if you were a train driver it would be on your record for the duration of your career!

However, it is an easy mistake to make, especially when the crossing period is extended artificially by either faulty on-crossing detectors or inappropriate timings set by the local authority, which in general gives puffins the bad name that they have. I must admit that some of my crossings dont work as well as they should, however I just have not had time to go around and give them the attention that they need... but at least the new ones I have installed work correctly and change as soon as the peds are nearly off the crossing.


That is very severe punishment to be on a record for life :shock: Train drivers must get themselves into a very strict routine. Routines would propably work well for this simple kind of observation mistake. It is interesting to hear that you install these devices. Some of the timing of lights really puzzle me sometimes, I find myself having a lot of time to wonder waiting at some sets and no time at other sets :shock:

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Flynn - the fact that you castigate you're self for missing a pedestrian light means that you expect you're self to drive to high standards .By punishing yourself you could be missing out on vital road information and looking for other things that possibly might not be there . You've seen the light ( red/yellow/green) -pass by and start driving again -that way you will get the confidence to be an excellent driver back .Stop dwelling on the mistakes - analyse them ,learn from them and apply the knowledge to become a better driver .I've been driving for 43(ten years on the only single track A road in the uk) and still am looking for ways to become a better driver (apart from taking on board tips from IG-)-so sit back and listen to one of the few sources of FREE driver education --IG inc .I can heartily recommend it .


There's nothing like several drivers with years of experience to make you feel better :) :) I've definately gotten into a system of looking at the lights after the crossing clears now. Single track A road? Was it a 30 limit? Sounds interesting, tell me more :mrgreen: (just kidding) I've been doused in enough wisdom to firmly put this behind me.

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Flynn,

No one got hurt. Nothing was damaged. No one got caught.
That means it's up to you to decide what to learn from this situation.

To be brief, I'll leave it at this:
What assumption did you make? How did that assumption fail you? What could you do differently next time to enhance your performance next time?

Being a trainee advanced driver who should know bettoer, you made a relatively mild mistake - in terms of the potential consequences - and now you do know better. Had a less advanced driver made that mistake, it

a) could've been accompanied by graver consequences
b) might not have resulted in as valuable a lesson.

Luck is the residue of design. Good luck.


Thanks. Yep as you said it is up to me. I assumed that the lights were a certain type of light but they were the other type and I got caught out. Now I always look at the stop lights again to make sure their green before I get rolling again. Essentially you guys are saying it is advanced to learn from mistakes by analysing them. That is a theme I have noticed. Now before I fall asleep at the keyboard, thanks everyone!

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 Post subject: Re: Ran stop light
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 22:37 
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Wow I couldn't have asked for more wisdom on this thread.

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The fact that you have analysed the problem and aware that you made a mistake will no doubt make you more aware of the hazard in the future and make you a safer driver. Be thankful you dont work on the railways - you got away with this one; if you were a train driver it would be on your record for the duration of your career!

However, it is an easy mistake to make, especially when the crossing period is extended artificially by either faulty on-crossing detectors or inappropriate timings set by the local authority, which in general gives puffins the bad name that they have. I must admit that some of my crossings dont work as well as they should, however I just have not had time to go around and give them the attention that they need... but at least the new ones I have installed work correctly and change as soon as the peds are nearly off the crossing.


That is very severe punishment to be on a record for life :shock: Train drivers must get themselves into a very strict routine. Routines would propably work well for this simple kind of observation mistake. It is interesting to hear that you install these devices. Some of the timing of lights really puzzle me sometimes, I find myself having a lot of time to wonder waiting at some sets and no time at other sets :shock:

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Flynn - the fact that you castigate you're self for missing a pedestrian light means that you expect you're self to drive to high standards .By punishing yourself you could be missing out on vital road information and looking for other things that possibly might not be there . You've seen the light ( red/yellow/green) -pass by and start driving again -that way you will get the confidence to be an excellent driver back .Stop dwelling on the mistakes - analyse them ,learn from them and apply the knowledge to become a better driver .I've been driving for 43(ten years on the only single track A road in the uk) and still am looking for ways to become a better driver (apart from taking on board tips from IG-)-so sit back and listen to one of the few sources of FREE driver education --IG inc .I can heartily recommend it .


There's nothing like several drivers with years of experience to make you feel better :) :) I've definately gotten into a system of looking at the lights after the crossing clears now. Single track A road? Was it a 30 limit? Sounds interesting, tell me more :mrgreen: (just kidding) I've been doused in enough wisdom to firmly put this behind me.

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Flynn,

No one got hurt. Nothing was damaged. No one got caught.
That means it's up to you to decide what to learn from this situation.

To be brief, I'll leave it at this:
What assumption did you make? How did that assumption fail you? What could you do differently next time to enhance your performance next time?

Being a trainee advanced driver who should know bettoer, you made a relatively mild mistake - in terms of the potential consequences - and now you do know better. Had a less advanced driver made that mistake, it

a) could've been accompanied by graver consequences
b) might not have resulted in as valuable a lesson.

Luck is the residue of design. Good luck.


Thanks. Yep as you said it is up to me. I assumed that the lights were a certain type of light but they were the other type and I got caught out. Now I always look at the stop lights again to make sure their green before I get rolling again. Essentially you guys are saying it is advanced to learn from mistakes by analysing them. That is a theme I have noticed. Now before I fall asleep at the keyboard, thanks everyone!

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 Post subject: Ran stop light
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 23:40 
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I'm gonna say one more thing, 'cause it really does apply almost anywhere, and anytime, but it made me a better driver (among other things) ...

Delete your expectations, and keep tracking the ever changing possibilities.

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1) No one gets hurt
2) Nothing gets hit, except to protect others; see Rule#1
3) The Laws of Physics are invincible and immutable - so-called 'laws' of men are not
4) You are always immediately and ultimately responsible for your safety first, then proximately responsible for everyone's
Do not let other road users' mistakes become yours, nor yours become others
5) The rest, including laws of the land, is thoughtful observation, prescience, etiquette, decorum, and cooperation


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 Post subject: Re: Ran stop light
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 19:29 
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Yes, thank you. It is crazy when you realise what you take for granted :shock: Luckily I do try to think what's around the next corner so to speak and indeed literally.

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