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No wonder I'm a social p*ss-head! :-)

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Probably explains why I can get more sense out of a pocket calculator than I can from my three daughters!


are you sure that doesnt say more about your daughters ?... or perhaps women in general ?

probably my tendencies would have been greater when younger, i've had to develop more people skills etc. still hate using telephones tho :x


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i've had to develop more people skills etc. still hate using telephones tho :x


I find I can simulate 'touchy-feely' quite effectively when necessary but the emotional types just fail completely when required to be clear and logical.


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Though, as usual with any of these things, a good number of the questions didn't apply or I agreed/disgreed with both choices etc etc.

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9. I am fascinated by dates.

Chronological dates? No. Dates you eat? No. Dates with ladies? Yes please...

I got 25. How odd. I expected higher. These tests never have the answer you want to put though.

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Lower score is better ! ?


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0 - 10 = low
11 - 22 = average (most women score about 15 and most men score about 17)
23 - 31 = above average
32 - 50 is very high (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score about 35)
50 is maximum

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I scored 19....lower than I expected as it is claimed that siblings of autism sufferers may exhibit one or two symptoms themselves.

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15 both times ... me, and me five years ago.

Gixxer, my best guess: design chicanes under controlled conditions and have him negotiate them at different speeds until he no longer fears steering. I wonder if his childhood had lots of lateral movement?

Sixy, re Scott Adams qoute, I merely meant that it seems engineers and their ilk are either set aside or outnumbered regarding safe road design and driver education matters. Further, it's been so for long enough that, since engineers rarely hold positions of widespread authority, the average citizen has become accustomed to doing what they are told moreso because of who said what, rather than what was said.

Those who are ignorant and/or indifferent to the possible distinctions between wrong and illegal may not all be engineers, but I'd wager they share a much stronger correlation than any of the previous ones implied in this thread.

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My brother is quite severely autistic and will never be able to drive a car safely. He is able to learn the mechanics of how to move, steer and control the speed of a car quite competently, and indeed has driven an automatic over 50mph under close supervision in a dual-controlled car. But the reactionary skills, need for quick thought and awareness of others are just not there.

Pretty much the same story with my eldest (just turned 12), only instead of braking being the issue it's maneuverability.
In a straight line he is text book perfect on stopping, starting, and changing gear, yet the minute an obstacle appears that requires him to turn the wheel then it all goes down the pan.

Hopefully he'll master it by the time he comes of legal age to drive on the public highway, but that is something that only time will tell.

Your child will be able to take to the road under instruction at 16 years, not 17.

I started teaching my son to "drive" two years ago - he will be 11 in March!
He will never be an "instinctive" driver, but will instead rely on a "database" of memorised responses to given situations.

His early ttempts resulted in him coming off the track, because he needed to watch his feet on the pedals - which he gave priority.
Now he can watch the road ahead, and has good hazard perception - listing speed cameras as hazards! :lol:
So far he has not had to look at mirrors, but that will be my next big concern, as the image is reversed.

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17 for me.

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One comment above (Toltec I think) I strongly agree with - I can turn on and off the emotional side when I *need* to have it on or off - but I must say I prefer it on. It makes for a more fulfilling day.


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14 for me,

I have seen a person with Downs Syndrome driving, again this is a condition with a wide spectrum of effects.

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16 for me.

Having waited 7 years to get a diagnoses for my son, I would urge you not to place too much by your scores.

All the questions are just looking for traits which MIGHT be Autism related, but many of which are shared by a whole range of other conditions.

There are many many other symptoms which go to make up a diagnoses - few of which are exclusive to the condition.

The American Autism Society have a diagnostic description on their website which is better than the questionnaire you have been looking at, but because the shared symptoms, and differing perceptions of YOUR OWN behaviour can mislead, I shall refrain from putting it up here! :)

If anyone wants a good book which describes the condition from somebody who has experienced it, try ""Freaks, Geeks and Asperger Syndrome" by Luke Jackson. Luke was just 13 when he wrote down what he was experiencing!
A good multimedia resource is "A for Autism" from Channel 4 - an 11 minute documentary description - again by those who have experienced it, or BBC TV's "The Autism Puzzle", an hour long documentary describing the background to the condition, AND contemporary thinking on it's causes and manifestations.

Those with autism can suffer sensory overload, because their brain is unable to sort and filter the massive amount of information ALL their senses take in. With my son, this leads to him blocking out sounds by placing his hands over his ears, to reduce the input.
With others, they might try to block their sense of touch by clutching their arms around themselves tightly. This might look silly to the casual observer, but is merely a "safety" or comfort mechanism for that individual.

While at times it can be frustrating having to recognise, and learn to deal with their little foibles, on the whole, living with somebody with autistic spectrum conditions gives YOU an increased awareness of many things you would normally take for granted, so I can honestly say that it has been a real pleasure living with our son's condition, it has taught me a great deal, and I would not wish it to simply go away for my own sake.

As with ANY condition which might affect driving, it is important that the driver is aware of anything which might affect his/her judgement, or reactions. Presumably this SHOULD come out in the test, yet I see people trying to park outside my works, while under no pressure at all, and making a complete a**e of it, and I wonder how they got their licenses!

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But in my job I'd be surprised if it were any other way.

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12. Interesting, considering my friend diagnosed me with Asperger's. Of course as a builder's laborour he's fully qualified to make such a diagnosis... NOT!

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