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Can people (not aimed at Handy) really not see the difference between sympathising with the actions of the bomber and empathising with the (speculated) frustrations the bomber is acting out of?
Yes they are probably as pissed off as many of society, but their blowing people up is the wrong response – at all levels.

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Yes they are probably as pissed off as many of society, but their blowing people up is the wrong response – at all levels.[/quote]

BEFORE anyone thinks i agree --i don't , but in BLIARS BRITAIN - taking action seems to get results. The ethnic minority do it with impunity - and what message does that send to the rest of Britain ??
Law and order is breaking down - except in remote parts ,policing is done by robots -

Not quoting "out of context" .. because we happen to have the original threads intact courtesy of Krissi who rather notoriously attacked the main perpetrator back in 2004 (the internet troll of umpteen identities.. ) and later pushed over the edge of sanity by Andreas and his merry band of "arosonists ...and part of the problem was compounded by Klaril really turning on some thumb screws by pointing out the truth about Swiss needle parks ..on the EDP site.. amongst .. er other home truths over scameras.

But basically.. led by this idiot .. C+ had one thread urging folks to chuck rocks at cars just as the person who caused the death of one lorry driver by this very act was in court.. and another urging cyclists to kick cars at traffic lights. So.. those bizarre folk on the "dark side of hell" seem to be chucking stones in a glass house here.

Andreas was banned for suggesting hypocrisy over pavement cycling and attitude towards vulnerable pedestrians. Calling some one a hypocrite is apparently tabu and ungentlemanly whereas one poster (claiming to have an education but I cannot see much evidence of this ) apparently is not. I do not even know much about Mr L Hubbard other than he wrote some "management courses" before coming all over "religious" whilst keeping on a business head For record .. some memberss of this family who work for multin-national concerns have come across Hubbard's Mangagement stuff... in one ear and out the other like all this course stuff .. but as practising Catholics .. never been remotely interested in anything other than traditional religious practice in proper church.

Interestingly . we have one thread in which Andreas posted a "general Middle England waily type" comment over incapacity benefit. It seems the person was affronted by this .. as despite being fit to ride a bike.. he is apparently not fit enough to work.. and Andreas being the cantankerous little so and so this family know him to be .. pounced on him - and perhaps there is still a festering wound as that guy.. well .. he does argue for a living

I mention this to try to explain why I think this person fixates so strangely and absurdly on our family on a site we do not even read .. unless we choose to follow a link.. or some other reason which the C+ management are aware of and which we know they will resolve as best they can.

I think I am entitled to pass some comment given the really daft allegation that this family are Scientologists. As this is an internet site and Scientologists may well browse.. I would not wish to be "derogatory" over something they actually believe in.. After all .. this family follows the Catholic Church within reason I will expect the person to moderate his daft post.. After all .. any one who considers themselves to be educated to the degree he claims would be shamed of such illogic. I will not hold my breath though. The evidence seems to suggest his "degrees" have as much substance as his wafflings in cyberspace on a forum which quite frankly no politician nor journalist even reads .. let alone takes note of.

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Now.. having got the above rant off my chest.

Apart from some early speculation.. media driven .. there is little evidence really to suggest this is the work of an insane person who received a Kengestion or other fine. It could be that the cams helped nail the animal rights loonies given the first spate on the forensic labs.

Let's just say that even the internet's pet troll is very sane and lucid by comparison with these serious violent head cases.. who once targeted the firm where Wildy works with these letter bombs some years ago.

Not one person can possibly condone such cowardly vicious evil as spiteful letter or the more sinister and seriously evil letter bomb which seeks to harm the normal inncocent just as the terrorists harm the ordinary folk going about their business.


Protest has to be legal.. and to the point.

That's why Paul gets quoted in the press and invited to talk on the telly and radio.

I do not see any cyclists .. and apart from Jon Snow and Geffen.. you do not come across the CTC in the press that often. - including the Grauniad

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I think you have hold of the wrong end of the stick.
The family pets are merely PLAYING with the golliwog, not being encouraged in ATTACKING it! You appear to have jumped to entirely the wrong conclusion based only on what you see... or were allowed to see!

These are young dogs that would not know any better. Later when they are all grown up, then they might be liable to have their owners prejudices imposed on them!

Of course all this depends on you accepting the view that a golliwog is actually representative of an ethnic group.
Nowadays little girls play with dolls that pee, and come in a range of ethnic types. When Robertsons used the golliwog symbol, they could well have been taking the first steps to exposing youngsters to other cultures!!

Of course the risking of life or injury is wrong - everyone accepts that - but so too is the climate that breeds these lunatic groups who actually carry out what the rest of us occasionally feel when we let off steam.

I know I have the means to destroy a speed camera, and probably not get caught, in fact it has just got a whole lot easier - the higher they are the further they fall - but I am a better person than that.
I know that eventually the penny will drop when the 24 hour a day propaganda machine is broken, and a compromise will be reached which allows the Govt. to save face, and they'll be cut back.
Others are not so restrained and take the law into their own hands.
All the time nobody is hurt, I can look on with amusement - as I did when John Prescott got egged, and turned around and started throwing punches!

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The Mirror.co.uk. Note the date of the article!

Although I don,t in any way condone the letter bombs aimed at ordinary working people (someone has to work for these parasitical companies in the name of justice!).
The blame lies squarely at the door of this arrogant and know all government who treat the electorate with utter contempt and arrogance and their attitude is "do as you are told" we know better than you that is why you elected us in the first place!!!!!!
Remember the "Thatcher" government she treated the electorate in the same manner with utter arrogance and contempt and look what her own "friends in cabinet" did to her then the electorate as well!!!
Remember history has a nasty habit of repeating itself and the sooner the better!
When the british electorate remove this bunch of idiots who profess to have all the answers "as long as it takes money in the form of taxes off the working man".
Take this new "congestion charge" in London from monday I don,t live in London but enough is enough and it is time the capital was brought to a standstill by having ALL traffic stop at the start of the charging zones and as a vehicle is moved another one takes it,s place and brings ths capital to a standstill for a few days I wonder what that idiot Ken livinstone would then do with NO REVENUE coming in to pay his ridiculous salary and to line the pockets of companies like Capita etc.!!!!!!!!!
Has anyone asked how much of this "Congestion Charge" has ACTUALLY gone on reducing congestion absolutely sweet nothing!!!!!!

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Editorial comment in "Autocar"



Note .. this is not suggesting a miffed motorist sent these bombs.. but rather highlighting the level of anger which an editor of a motoring mag will be aware of just as the editors of CW (sensible chap) and C+ (new guy - but so far so good as regards the mag substance ) will be aware of busy busy busy urban big city cycling commuter issues.




Yep.. global warming.. when industry causes this.

As for the wind farms.. er. in heavy winds they are switched off.. so they do not generate any "energy" .. yet a lot of energy and cost to the environment was made to produce and erect them.

All industry causes "harm" to our planet. So what do you want Widly to do? Not research and trial what she affectionately calls her "recipes" .. which do cost normal overheads.. and she has to discard her working togs each day and have new each day.. like me. And that gear costs the enviro to clean and re-manufacture. But .. I deal with nasty lurgies and we both have to work in a very sterilised enironnment all the time.



True.. we hold our priviliged right to travel dearly and feel affronted and demoralised by threats to remove it.

Oh.. and do not think for one moment .. cycling will be "free". Thirty two million riders suddenly taking to the streets.

You can bet revenue raising laws .. compulsory insurance, tests, roadworthiness of bicycles, speed limits, enforced laws to arbitrary silliness will kick in immediately

Anyone who thinks otherwise would have to be a naive and deluded fool

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Yes, you've already said.

Police arrest letter bomb suspect
Monday, February 19, 2007 Detectives hunting a suspected serial letter bomber have made an arrest, it has been reported.

The letter-bomber who has brought terror to offices across the country is a woman, police now believe.

Tests on the labels used to address four of the seven potentially-lethal devices has revealed the handwriting on them is female, officers say.

Detectives believe they are closing in on the suspect and hope to make an arrest within days, it was reported.

Seven bombs in Jiffy-style padded envelopes have been sent through the post over the past month, causing injuries to nine people.

They were posted to motoring enforcement agencies and groups dealing with forensic science and criminal justice.

A police source said: 'Analysis of the handwriting on some of the bomb packaging leads us to believe it is the work of a woman.

'We have a number of suspects in mind and are expecting to make arrests this week.'

The 'mini pipe bombs' were made from... [ practical bomb design deleted ]

Police successfully dismantled and analysed two bombs which were intercepted at an Oxfordshire science firm and a Birmingham laboratory last month. Some of the packages contained shrapnel, broken glass or nails.

Apost room worker nearly lost a thumb in one of the blasts

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“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

Why on earth do they think it's OK to publish a clear proven design for a mail bomb? I'm going to remove it from these forums.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6375131.stm
A man has been arrested in connection with the recent spate of letter bomb attacks, police said.
The suspect was arrested in Cambridge by detectives investigating the attacks

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

The Metro article appears to have been completely revised and doesn't have anything about that now, but I found another article in a different paper with a description of the construction, enough to get people interested!

the arrested man doesn't even drive a car...

he cycles to work!

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Oooh! I wonder if C+ has any posters that are not contributing at the moment?

The sending of bombs through the post to 'blind recipients' is an act of abject terrorism and cowardice and the perpetrator should face the full force of the Law.
However, the infantile, nannyistic bunch of control freaks that style themselves our 'government' engender this sort of reaction in the electorate and we will see these acts arise more and more frequently.
Unless something is done to rid us of the Nu Labia menace, the 'Poll Tax' riots of the eighties will seem like a quiet summer picnic.

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I don't know about you, but the moment I saw the photo of the cyclist who was nicked, I went into a fit of laughter. Not least because he's ginger, but the overall "nerd" look, with the glasses. The fact that he's cross-eyed, he probably thinks that's a sophisticated intelligent look.

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I wonder if they will aplogise over the garbage posted to date over all this. Somehow the person fits my "mind's eye" as to what the pet internet troll looks like (He did claim he was from the Cambridgeshire area in one of his many guises after all )

But .. the StUN did at least admit that this photo was taken when the suspect was indulging in some laddish fun and games .. so perhaps, as I am fair minded, a rather unfortunate photo to use. Perhaps the only photo?

The police have been granted another 24 hours to question this guy. I hope they copped the right person and prevented a nutcase from injuring more people.

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But the real message? SMILE.. GO ON ! DO IT! and the world will smile with you!
Enjoy life! You only have the one bite at it.

you may want to reconsider "having a go" at ginger nerds with glasses, I'm sure some members would feel that this is a kind of oppression.

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A young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless, in a world of criminals who operate above the law.

I dont regard laughing at the picture as any kind of oppression. Since the person concerned is quite obviously acting the goat at the time it was taken, I dont think even he would be offended by somebody laughing at it!

However I do feel the press are scrapping the barrel when they are reduced to actually using pictures like this!

Memo to self: Make sure a good picture of me is available in case I should ever get fed up with our local council putting yellow lines down where NOBODY has ever parked, and set fire to the lining machine!

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He has now been charged .. up before beak today per BBC News.

They say he was always on his bicycle in all the papers .. perhaps ist to do with animal rights und some other deranged thoughts.

On a skim through a certain forum.. joined up thinking does not appear to be a strong point

PS .. we are family of toppest SCIENTISTS .. which ist not the same thing as an "ologist" which would appear to be what these pseudo - "academics" who cannot be employed given time spent in a chat room.

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