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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 21:29 
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Anyone seen this?

http://www.ninepointsthatswhy.com/

I saw one of the stickers today. I immediately thought "Ah, an unobservant driver." :)

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They have a use! I always watch out for cars with baby/child on board too... They're nice and easy to see, bright yellow triangle...

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They have a use! I always watch out for cars with baby/child on board too... They're nice and easy to see, bright yellow triangle...



I saw a yellow triangle stating that the car had grandchildren on board.

errmmmm GREAT!! Your son/daughter has successfully managed to breed and left you in charge of their offspring. Quite why I need to know this escapes me.

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I would have thought they encourage tailgating being so small, they don't look easy to read at distance

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malcolmw wrote:
Anyone seen this?

http://www.ninepointsthatswhy.com/

I saw one of the stickers today. I immediately thought "Ah, an unobservant driver." :)


That's a little unfair IMO. The guy is from Bucks, home of Talivans that like to park like this:

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Add in your usual combination of unmarked video cars, badly signed roads and so on that you get everywhere and it's easy to amass 9 points, especially if you're a high mileage driver.


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malcolmw wrote:
Anyone seen this?

http://www.ninepointsthatswhy.com/

I saw one of the stickers today. I immediately thought "Ah, an unobservant driver." :)

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I would have thought they encourage tailgating being so small, they don't look easy to read at distance.


I agree with both! I'd be embarrassed to have a sticker saying that. I'd also be out of a job! :cry:


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http://www.sticktothelimit.com/

Something similar, but an easier to read sticker. The only drawback is that drivers (including me :oops: until I found out more) may think this means you're a member of a Gatso fan club of some kind. Imagine....


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If you were displaying the "9 points" sticker in a car park, it might make the walking plod to give your car an "extra hard look"

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malcolmw wrote:


It's a good idea. I was tempted to have a sticker saying 'BACK OFF YOU STUPID MORON', but one of these is much nicer, and I wouldn't get involved in as much fighting!

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It's a good idea. I was tempted to have a sticker saying 'BACK OFF YOU STUPID MORON', but one of these is much nicer, and I wouldn't get involved in as much fighting!

You dont have 9 points do you BW?
I would go with your original scheme, and take some self defence lessons - preferably from that young boy who assaulted the 15 stone mugger and broke his nose! :lol:

I favour "YOUR stopping distance is far greater than your IQ" :)

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Ernest Marsh wrote:
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http://www.ninepointsthatswhy.com/

It's a good idea. I was tempted to have a sticker saying 'BACK OFF YOU STUPID MORON', but one of these is much nicer, and I wouldn't get involved in as much fighting!


You don’t have 9 points do you BW?


I have absolutely none on my licenses (obviously) but tailgaters don't know that, do they?

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That's a little unfair IMO. The guy is from Bucks, home of Talivans that like to park like this:

Ah, the A413 Wendover bypass, I know it well :)

Three easy steps to making money:

1) Build an almost dead straight road, as wide as the runway at Heathrow, but with only two lanes, so a default 60mph limit.
2) Set up a semi-hidden camera.
3) Rake in the cash from all the hapless non-locals who don't know about the camera and breeze past at a perfectly safe 80mph.


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Three easy steps to making money:

1) Build an almost dead straight road, as wide as the runway at Heathrow, but with only two lanes, so a default 60mph limit.
2) Set up a semi-hidden camera.
3) Rake in the cash from all the hapless non-locals who don't know about the camera and breeze past at a perfectly safe 80mph.


Yea, that works... And then just ignore the twisty lane that boy racers fly up at 70 or 80 and would be more suited to 40... Oh, but they wouldn't get as much money from that... :D

Saw no scammers there today... I rarely do... But that's good isn't it... I got tailgated by a yellow transit today, and then he went to overtake on a blind bend and I moved the foot to the brake pedal, expecting him to actually carry it out, but he pulled back slightly when a car came flying around the bend...

I also witnessed someone cutting it incredibly fine with a car behind me... He passed 2 cars coming up to another blind bend in the road, and he ended up leaving about 5 yards space between the car on the other side of the road... I'm surprised that the oncoming vehicle didn't brake slightly... The car he was overtaking could have slowed down and pulled in a bit though - would have saved the guy a new set of trousers...

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It's a good idea. I was tempted to have a sticker saying 'BACK OFF YOU STUPID MORON', but one of these is much nicer, and I wouldn't get involved in as much fighting!


Good god, man! If you really do spoil for a fight every time another driver tailgates you, then you really do need to adapt and re-consider your driving psychology! Stressing out behind the wheel is a pretty dangerous thing for both yourself and other road users. Relax.

Don't forget, the tailgater is FAR more stressed than you are and there is no point in engaging in reciprocal stress. Let them pass at the earliest opportunity, resume your stress-free progress, and let the tailgater resume his / her search for their next smash.

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JohnF wrote:
Lum wrote:
That's a little unfair IMO. The guy is from Bucks, home of Talivans that like to park like this:

Ah, the A413 Wendover bypass, I know it well :)

Three easy steps to making money:

1) Build an almost dead straight road, as wide as the runway at Heathrow, but with only two lanes, so a default 60mph limit.
2) Set up a semi-hidden camera.
3) Rake in the cash from all the hapless non-locals who don't know about the camera and breeze past at a perfectly safe 80mph.


I didn't realise that's the photo location but you're right about the road width. There's easily space for two vehicles side by side in each lane - and then some. Is there a crash record justification for enforcement on that stretch?

Drove it a copule of time recently and very unnatural not to push up to 80ish.


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Ah, the A413 Wendover bypass, I know it well :)

I didn't realise that's the photo location but you're right about the road width. There's easily space for two vehicles side by side in each lane - and then some. Is there a crash record justification for enforcement on that stretch?

I recognised it straight away, and it also features on the ABD website...

There was one well publicised crash in September 2002 in which four people were killed - see the details here and make your own mind up as to how it might have happened. According to the Bucks CC figures it had been pretty safe up to then.


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That would be because I gave those images to the ABD. I thought they may like them.

I think I made a thread about it here ages ago too.

The rest of the images, including shots from underneath that bridge in both directions and a shot of the van from the otherside that reveals that the talivan is parked on a FOOTBRIDGE (which is also a marked bridleway) can be found here: http://www.lum.co.uk/SS/


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I think I made a thread about it here ages ago too.

So you did, here.

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The rest of the images, including shots from underneath that bridge in both directions and a shot of the van from the otherside that reveals that the talivan is parked on a FOOTBRIDGE (which is also a marked bridleway) can be found here: http://www.lum.co.uk/SS/

The track leading to that bridge is about 200 yards long, narrow, bumpy and overgrown. You wouldn't want to take your private car up it unless you had to. And if you met a pedestrian coming the other way it is questionable that there would be enough room to pass safely. Obstructing a public footpath is an offence; it cost Nicholas van Hoogstraten £15,000.

Most appropriately, the bridge is called Folly Bridge...


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This location reminds me of the good old days - I was brought up in Great Missenden and used the A413 a lot. Up the 3-lane Missenden by-pass (I was there when it was being constructed) at 90 mph on my brother's Triumph Speed Twin.

In my reckless youth I once drove my dad's Mk 1 Escort flat out from Wendover towards Missenden, it reached an indicated 90 at the start of the bypass. 0-90 (probably really just over 80) in 4 miles slightly downhill. Yes - I can remember when I was a serious risk on the roads. There must have been a lot less traffic then but plenty of bad driving - I can still remember driving onto the grass near Wendover church to avoid a head-on collision with an overtaking vehicle.


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