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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 01:39 
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OK having had too many glasses of vino I suggest the following.......

Respect your fellow road users . They have just as much (no more and no less) right to use the road as you do.

Most of them are pretty decent folk. (apart from the odd muppet).....

This may sound strange, but (particularly on motorways). anticipate other drivers manoeveres before they do..... (I'm thinking motorway overtakes here.......
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The same thing twice in possibly the wrong thread?


So, groovemeister, how's your head today?

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For those of you facing court sometime soon you had best take note of this:

This is going to be part empowerment and part technical, but it is more empowerment than anything else!

KNOW WHO AND WHAT YOU ARE:
You are one down from God. Understand that there is God, then there is you. Does commerce, corporations or statutes come between you and god? No. So, there are no rules that can govern you in your “Man” capacity.

Believe me they know this, and it scares them silly! Why do you think it is that they go through all of the pompous acting, black robes (costumes) and have their benches so much higher than you? Its so they can create the illusion of being superior!! I'll tell you now, they are nothing of the sort and they know it, that is why we have had judges leave court in terrible fits of temper!!

YOU ARE THE COURT! Why? Because in your “man” capacity you reign supreme below only God himself, understand? How is it possible for a corporation to have jurisdiction over something that is 2nd only to God?

So you see belief in your rightful place is the beginning and in fact, if you know how to behave, the end of their jurisdiction!

Ok, a little role play here:
You go into the courthouse to assist the court in dealing with a liability that has been attached to your “strawman fiction”.
You have hurdles to get over, bluffs from the court to get past and then a few points to make!! Bamm!

You enter the courthouse, and are met by an usher/register bearer, he/she asks for your name, how do you answer?
“A name is a legal title”. You give them this & you’re cooked before you begin! Try “hello I am called Guy I am an interested 3rd party and I am here about that matter”

Now she may say I need your name, you can’t go in without giving me your name! Bluff! You must alter your voice and attitude become fervent in your assertion, “I am called Guy and I am an interested 3rd party and I am here about that matter now tell the judge I am here!!” (bold for emphasis) try not to be too angry looking, trust me they probably don’t know, and are just doing their jobs. Ignorance is the corporations best weapon, so many people I have met have given up because the fight through the stupidity is so hard, it’s like treading water that’s really treacle!

Once they have disappeared to tell the judge an angry fellow has come in and he won’t give me his name, you can expect more theatrics; perhaps a barrister will come and pay you a visit and try the same old tricks to try to get you to contract.

Answer no straight questions, especially DO NOT give your “persons” name, separate the two, you’re a “man” remember that!

Once you have got passed that you may be asked to attend the judge’s chambers, if so you can go, don’t answer to the name of your person, you are the man, if they call a name, respond with “I’m sorry did you call Guy Euden? If you did I am an interested 3rd party and I am here about that matter!”

As you go through and the judge swings his doors open and says “come in come in” invitingly! You must not cross the threshold/doorframe, you must before stepping through, state, “I will enter sir if I may do so with all of my unalienable rights reserved?” well he can’t say no can he? If he chooses not to acknowledge what you have just said and tries to brush past the statement, you must repeat and get his agreement, no agreement, no entry!!

Once that is passed you might be offered a seat, I would say actually “sir I will stand and will do so with all of my unalienable rights reserved!”

Ok so far so good, no jurisdiction given away here YET!

Ask him if your attendance in his chambers is going to be recorded “so that a no show isn’t pulled on you”

Ok once this is all done and you have established you’re not going to be prey to his jurisdiction you can hammer out your desire to assist and help the court settle and close this account etc etc.... don’t answer questions with answers, answer them with questions and get what you want done across.

THE COURT ROOM
The courtroom is no different from chambers, when you enter you do not answer to the called name, you state clearly that “you are here about that matter”

Enter the courtroom reserving all of your unalienable rights.

When you hear the “ALL RISE” .......... STAY SEATED, remember your status GOD>YOU>CORPORATION would that Judge rise for you? I doubt it! You do not get up for him at all! You get up when you want to get up.

If the clerk rushes over and says you must stand or you must leave ask on whose authority are you asking me to leave?
After all this is YOUR COURT ROOM NOW!! You are the highest authority in that court, A living MAN 2nd only to God!

Now the old “please state your name and address for the court” twoddle!!! you do NOT do this, you can ask “if I gave you this information would I be entering into contract with you?” if he states no he’d be lying, if he states yes you are giving him nothing, so answer “then sir I decline your offer to contract, and you may call me Guy. I am here to assist this court in settlement and closure of this account” oooooohhh he won’t like that!!

If you don’t answer that way you could try, “I have no name sir, names are for corporations, you may address me as Guy”
Ohh just look into his seething eyes!! This alone is worth going for!

Remember your mantra! “YOU ARE AN INTERESTED 3rd PARTY HERE TO ASSIST THE COURT IN SETTLEMENT AND CLOSURE OF THIS ACCOUNT”
I’ll break this down a little for you, I am the only contributing beneficiary to the “GUY EUDEN” trust “NI number” so I am the only interested party capable of dealing with matters pertaining to the said trust!

THE OATH yes the judge has an oath of office, you see there are two types of judges:
Levitical and Melchesidec
The levitical goes back to a time when a levitical priest went about his business and settled disputes, he used his “judgement” he then took a payment for solving the dispute. There are no rules here, he does whatever he feels he wants to, hence why you need that levitical judge to hold his tongue
You do this by asking him: “for and on the record sir, do you have an oath of office?”, he might answer “well I think I may have wrote something on a piece of paper... somewhere?” the usual garbage you would expect from a corporate judge or trustee of the Corporate Court, who just wants to get paid!
So you then ask him: is your oath in this courtroom today? He can answer many ways, but 99% of the time it isn’t, so you reiterate: “but you do have an oath of office?” whatever he comes back with, hold your hand high in the air and state loudly and clearly “FOR AND ON THE RECORD, THE COURT TAKES JUDICIAL NOTICE OF JUDGE *******’s OATH OF OFFICE!”
Then turn to the judge and make sure that has been recorded, if he declines to do it then you must ask him to leave the court, fire him!, as he is nothing more than a corporate lackie!! And is not worthy to be sitting there in any kind of a judgment position! If it has been put on the record as so ordered by yourself, then, the judge is now recognised as a melchesidec judge and cannot practice law from the bench. He is now just an umpire, and must remain silent most of the time, now you only have to deal with the plaintiff.

Oh if he tries to preach law from the bench, shout out “Sir, you are on your oath!!!” flagrant breaches of this rule and you can issue a bond, or a lien against him.

Ok now things may take a bit of a dive, they will be wanting to contract and have been known not to want to play if they can’t get you into contract, even screaming, blowing gaskets etc... ha ha, I tell you can have some dam fun with this!! “sir are you ok?, would you like me to call for help? Are you suffering an attack?, would you like a 10 minute recess to compose yourself? I am happy to grant one! HAHAHA oh God please it’s just too much fun!! Just remember its all acting!!

You may be screamed at: blah blah blah!!! “or you will be held in contempt of court” ok... “ what contempt would that be sir? If it’s criminal, please bring forth the injured party as I wish to make recompense!! Or is it civil? If so please show me the contract of performance I have agreed to?” or just “please bring forth the contract”

During however long you are in there the judge will try to catch you in the jurisdiction trap, calling you: sir, mr, miss, mrs blah blah, we used to have to keep fighting that with something like “sir you keep referring to me as a corporation, do I look like a corporation to you?” look genuinely distressed at this, your honour is at stake here!

This would usually get really boring and make the court appearance a real bore, now it’s easier, use this:
“Sir you keep referring to me as a corporation, I am however just a man, if it assists you though I will grant you that courtesy” this nullifies his whole name calling shooting match, watch for fireworks, some friends of mine had a high court of chancery judge leave the court due to this, he was in a frightful rage ha ha ha well done “S” and “L”
YOU DO NOT GET IN THE DOCK (DOCKS ARE FOR SHIPS) ADMIRALTY.... GET IT?
YOU DO NOT DO ANYTHING ASKED OF YOU
YOU DO NOT HAVE A NAME
YOU WANT WATER LIKE THE REST OF THEM!
YOUR SEAT BETTER BE AS GOOD ASWELL!
YOU DO NOT STAND WHEN ALL RISE IS SHOUTED
YOU ARE THE ULTIMATE PRESENCE IN THAT COURT, YOU ARE THE ONLY NON FICTICIOUS CREATION THERE
AND YOU ARE SECOND ONLY TO GOD HIMSELF!

Really by now you should have an idea, the other information you need to know is court documents and procedures, bonds, bonded promissory notes, liens etc

None of this is essential, I did stress at the beginning, it is more a state of mind, KNOW WHO YOU ARE, isn’t that right “Mirthful Merryweather”

You have the power, feel it, know it, BECOME IT,




John Harris has come from nowhere, in the last couple of years he has made a big splash in the community I have been to his talks twice one in Stoke-on-Trent and another in London


This is the first video I saw of John Harris taken from Edge Media TV now changed name to Controversial TV Sky channel 200

http://www.tpuc.org/node/494


I was there for this video taken in Stoke-on-Trent

http://www.bbc5.tv/eyeplayer/articles/j ... s-illusion


Another video by John Harris each video slightly evolves from the last

http://www.tpuc.org/node/590


John Harris's website, if you spend some time and read the whole of his website which will probably take a couple of days then you'll have a much greater insight into the law on this land and how it has been twisted against us

http://www.tpuc.org


You can dismiss this information if you like because it's all about your slavery, slaves often like their slavery because they get three meals a day, a bed to sleep in, all their paperwork done for them and all they have to do is keep working and keep quiet

Well here's one slave that isn't going to keep quiet! Time to wake up

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And ladies and gentleman that, I believe, should give you solid proof that first cousin marriages are a bad thing!


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Like I said Odin you enjoy your slavery too much and you don't like the sound of your chains being rattled do you?

The government treats us like children because we behave like children it's time we start behaving like adults

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Lol, the cake is a lie!

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Rwolf, I'm intrigued by all this! I was wondering, have you ever successfully used this tactic yourself in a court case?

Also, I feel obliged to ask, would this tactic work for any kind of charge? If so, would you want to live in a society where (for example), I could steal your stuff / rape your sister / murder your mother / burn your house down etc and then use this tactic to escape justice? The "chains" of which you speak, are largely self-imposed by people who wish to live together in a society and don't like any of the above events happening.

Clearly, not all laws are just. History is littered with laws that were eventually repealed. We (I can't officially speak for all Safespeeders) are all generally on here because we believe that the methods that the authorities employ to try and improve road safety are not the most effective that they could choose. In particular, we generally don't like automated speed limit enforcement and we don't like reductions in speed limits when the automated enforcement fails to deliver the results originally hoped for. I think it is also generally true to say that we don't much like the idea of any system of punishment that delivers a large financial incentive to the authorities to keep it going!

I think you'll find very few people on here whose principal aim is to drive like a nutter and never suffer the (legal) consequences!


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Mole wrote:
Rwolf, I'm intrigued by all this! I was wondering, have you ever successfully used this tactic yourself in a court case?

Also, I feel obliged to ask, would this tactic work for any kind of charge? If so, would you want to live in a society where (for example), I could steal your stuff / rape your sister / murder your mother / burn your house down etc and then use this tactic to escape justice? The "chains" of which you speak, are largely self-imposed by people who wish to live together in a society and don't like any of the above events happening.

Clearly, not all laws are just. History is littered with laws that were eventually repealed. We (I can't officially speak for all Safespeeders) are all generally on here because we believe that the methods that the authorities employ to try and improve road safety are not the most effective that they could choose. In particular, we generally don't like automated speed limit enforcement and we don't like reductions in speed limits when the automated enforcement fails to deliver the results originally hoped for. I think it is also generally true to say that we don't much like the idea of any system of punishment that delivers a large financial incentive to the authorities to keep it going!

I think you'll find very few people on here whose principal aim is to drive like a nutter and never suffer the (legal) consequences!



:clap: Well said Mole! :bow:


ok .. AND i admit to looking up my old training notes the :listenup: THE LAW and have discussed this with my eldest son who read LAW at OXFORD UNI (just to show off that I do have a "clever son" :lol: :bunker: - between you, me and the eniter internet - he's a smart a:censored:e! :wink: But anyway - Eurpopean law (including Scottish law via the Stuarts) are based upon Roman Law. England and Wales only applies Roman Law in a few specialised fields. OUR LAW - develpped over a very long period and was ot sstematically created. It more or less drew its excprtise from common law "common sense" and this was why our legal system up until "Brussel sprouts invaded!" was held to be the fairest in the world... and USA and Canada and Commonwealth all use our system - which is based on common sense and setting of judicial precedent - which can be overturned by future precedent as and when new evidence and technology allows. I have to say that I am proud to be a Yorkshireman/ aka Englishman on that basis - and which fact does not compromise my role as a serviing police officer in the slightest. :lol: ) (I may do a run of quicky quizzes on General Police Duties to check how much you all know - but I am saving that for "bored moments" :lol: and I admit that obective would be to tease "rwolf" in particular! - but on good friendly terms - as always :lol: )

In ye olde world of 1066 - each local area applied its own local customs. They varied considerably. (A bit like speed cam tolerances then :popcorn: and maybe even individual officer professional opinions :bunker:)


William I vowed that the English kept to their customs in law... but the Normans stil had a strong central government and the aristocracy all spoke .. err. FRENCH (and if some rebels had not existed .. we'd all be speaking . err.. FRENCH! So rebels with causes and claws apparently matter then :roftl:) This more or less stopped the local courts and led to central courts in WESTMINSTER. Royal judges were then sent to precide over all the local courts .. the ASSIZES and I think most will recall this legal system from our rich literary history. These travelling judges unified the traditional customs - and the KIing decreed some rules to apply nationally as well .. based on the findings of fact by the Assizes. :wink: All of this was achieved by the end of C13 apparently - and formalised by the Magna Carta of 1266 which decreed that "no man or woman or child should be denied justice"

The law of equity was established to make provision for fact that we cannot legislate for each eventuality and applying the letter of the law to each case makes for BAD LAW. :popcorn: as it would cause undue hardship. Remedy came by way of Court of Chnacery ..held by the Lord Chancellor - and were tied by common law and precendential custom/court rulings. Equity is now more or less the relief in civil contract law cases. :popcorn: Not a lawyer .. posting per my notes and general conversations with legal beagles :lol:

We also have statute laws.. EU directives (more civil than criminal) ...and a legal system based on precedent... judge's ruling and which are binding all on all equal and lower courts until superceded.

Our laws aim to right a wrong. Our court system tries to support this. Our system builds on finding of fact and will set a precedent on such fact .. based on the judge's "ratio decidendi", I happen to think this to be a basically fair system overall.. but admit I do not want to see EU undermine our more civil system of civil and criminal justice. As a police officer - I have to enforce the laws but have some discetionary powers within fair reason. I've always used common sense/professionalluy developped expertise on this in the past and always found such decision to be fair/just and in the public interest :popcorn: This should not be interpreted as "soft approach" :wink: Quite the contrary in the real world :bunker: but FAIR!

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Mole wrote:
Also, I feel obliged to ask, would this tactic work for any kind of charge? If so, would you want to live in a society where (for example), I could steal your stuff / rape your sister / murder your mother / burn your house down etc and then use this tactic to escape justice?


Having read quite a bit on the TPUC site I can answer that question (almost) accurately.

All of the crimes you mention are covered under common law as laid down in Magna Carta. These are the only laws that apply to everyone. All other laws are statute laws meaning that they are brought in via bills. The main point about our type of government is that it is rule by consent. Therefore, if you do not consent to be goverened by the statutes they cannot apply to you.

If you really want to know more then please be open minded and read the site. It does explain about why our statutes are in place and why you require a birth certificate etc.

One question, which the site answers, why are you the registered keeper of your vehicle when you paid for it from your own money?

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But they apply via precedential interpretation by the courts based on tradition? And custom and tradition can equate to consent? :scratchchin:


I am posting such comment to stimulate discussion only :popcorn:

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In ye olde world of 1066 - each local area applied its own local customs. They varied considerably. (A bit like speed cam tolerances then :popcorn: and maybe even individual officer professional opinions :bunker:)
In 1195 King Richard 1 issued an edict which created the office of Keeper of the Peace. The Statute of Westminster in 1327 extended the role of the Keepers and in 1361 the Justice of the Peace Act changed the role again and formed the basis of today's Magistracy.

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The main point about our type of government is that it is rule by consent. Therefore, if you do not consent to be goverened by the statutes they cannot apply to you.
We are governed by consent, in that we have the right to elect a different government if we are not happy with the current one, but there is no such leeway where the law is concerned. One of the powers of an elected government is to pass laws which are then binding on all of us. If we don't like a law we need to elect a new government that will change it.

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The main point about our type of government is that it is rule by consent. Therefore, if you do not consent to be goverened by the statutes they cannot apply to you.
We are governed by consent, in that we have the right to elect a different government if we are not happy with the current one, but there is no such leeway where the law is concerned. One of the powers of an elected government is to pass laws which are then binding on all of us. If we don't like a law we need to elect a new government that will change it.

Precisely, one can't decide the the legal system doesn't apply to us, thus we can't go out and steal a car and expect to get away with it because we elect to opt out of the legal system.

I to have read all of the TPUC website, it appears to be littered with legal misunderstandings, falsehoods and complete untruths. They presented in an appealing manner which makes one think "Is that true?" Well as the old saying goes, if it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is. I haven't found a single legal argument on the site.

A broad generalisation for the cases is using the exact same defence that is employed to quash many speeding tickets. Make it clear that you are going to make it difficult for the authorities to collect your £60, and they will, as a general rule, drop the case - there are many easier fixed penalties to collect. The fact remains that even though the case were dropped, a law was broken. The cases stated on the site amount to sending corresponence that make ridiculous claims, the authorites will on the whole not bother to proceed. No legal precedents are being set, no law is being used. It is just being awkward to make the cases economically non-viable.
Sooner or later the courts will try one of these cases and egg will certainly end up on the faces of those who believe the rubbish on TPUC.


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rwolf wrote:
Like I said Odin you enjoy your slavery too much and you don't like the sound of your chains being rattled do you?

The government treats us like children because we behave like children it's time we start behaving like adults

I think you'll find that yours and not my chains were rattled.

And since I do not believe in a personal sky fairy, I am free from slavery. Are you?


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The main point about our type of government is that it is rule by consent. Therefore, if you do not consent to be goverened by the statutes they cannot apply to you.
We are governed by consent, in that we have the right to elect a different government if we are not happy with the current one, but there is no such leeway where the law is concerned. One of the powers of an elected government is to pass laws which are then binding on all of us. If we don't like a law we need to elect a new government that will change it.



True. But you have to lobby the MPs to get various changes in the law - and all amendments then have to pass through the usual processes before becoming Law. How these laws bind further depends on how the judge will interpret the wording of the Act as well and in which court. :popcorn:

But most parties lay out their stalls before the General Election and this gives us some clues as to what sort of laws we will be consenting to.. :popcorn:

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By the way - it's a bit of an urban myth that the authorities will cease to chase up an FPN. :popcorn: Believe that and you perhaps deserve the rocketing outcome. If you think your ping was unfair - then check out the facts first and then appeal with the facts - such as incorrect signage or the temporary device enforcing the wrong stretch as as happened twice in two headline-making cases in the past (M4 2003 and Manchester A road roadworks in 2005 - both stories covered by that "newshound" - the Mad Doc :lol:). Courts and the law deal in black and white facts of the matter and not fits of gullible pique - fuelled by misreading/misunderstanding summat on t'internet. :popcorn:

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...the NHS is a private company run for profit

Uh? :? I know you've already replied to that point Robin but I have to say if there was an award for the most ridiculous statement of the year, that would be it!

I don't think I'll be replying to anything rwolf has to say in future.

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\ooh Tone .. I missed that gem :lol: He will be saying plod run for profit next. \Bum .. He already has .. Blimey :shock:

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But you have to lobby the MPs to get various changes in the law - and all amendments then have to pass through the usual processes before becoming Law. How these laws bind further depends on how the judge will interpret the wording of the Act as well and in which court. :popcorn:
I didn't mean to suggest that the process is easy or in any way guaranteed. But it is legal and, with enough support, things can be changed. The point about judges interpreting law is well made. The need for that could be avoided if governments were less inclined to rush legislation through in search of favourable headlines.

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We are slowly but surely being taken over by a vicious police state and when the Lisbon Treaty is fully ratified the vicious police state takeover is going to be coming for you at 100 mile an hour and if you don't know the law and don't know how to protect yourself from the statute (corporate law) it's going to consume you.

Some of you think you're not slaves how much tax including stealth taxes do you play and what do you get in return how
much was your pension worth including private pensions and how much is it worth today?

Soon they will be putting Fluoride in our water supply and that will be just the start, soon they force us to takes the Swine Flu vaccine (what are the ingredients in vaccines?), soon they will force us to take the ID card and remember you'll have to apply for the ID card (applying means begging).

I believe Scotland already has an environmental task force that will fine you if you don't obey Climate Change regulations; Climate Change regulations are designed to take money from the people and give it to the government and very little to do with global-warming.


Do you think you're a person or do you think you're a human being? There's a big difference.

John Harris's PowerPoint presentation from his latest talk.

http://www.tpuc.org/content/johns-lawful-rebellion-powerpoint-file-0


The Matrix is a system neo that system is our enemy when you're inside you look around and what do you see businessmen, teachers, lawyer's, carpenters the very mind's of the people we are trying to save but until we do these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy you have to understand most of these people are not ready to be unplug and many of them are so inert so hopelessly dependent on the system they will fight to protect it.

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