Safe Speed Forums

The campaign for genuine road safety
It is currently Tue Jun 02, 2026 05:56

View unanswered posts | View active topics


Board index » Discussion Forums » Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law

All times are UTC [ DST ]



Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 1
  [ 9 posts ] 
  Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
Steve
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 13:05 
Offline
Friend of Safe Speed
Friend of Safe Speed
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:16
Posts: 7986
Location: Moved to London
I bet Yimitier would like this one...

BBC.co.uk wrote:

A member of Lancashire Police staff has been given a warning after 2,115 speeding tickets had to be cancelled.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said the failings in the force's Central Processing Unit resulted in a "total shambles".

It found that paperwork was not completed properly for speeding fines, leaving them open to challenge.

One person was given an oral warning and a second has been moved from the unit, the IPCC said.

The inquiry focused on forms which proved speeding notices had been posted to drivers.

From July 2006 to October 2007 about 60% of the certificates produced daily from the proof of postage forms were found to be missing or wrong, the IPCC found.

'Totally unacceptable'

As a result 2,115 tickets were cancelled.

The staff member given an warning has a charge of failing to follow procedures proven against them at a disciplinary hearing and one of integrity and performance of duties was not proven.

Both charges were not proven against the other worker, but concerns raised about their capability and they were moved to a different job.

Naseem Malik, IPCC Commissioner for the North West, said: "The recognised procedures for the production of these particular forms within the Central Process Unit would appear to have descended into a total shambles and, as a result, forms which were required were either missing or incorrect. This was totally unacceptable.

"I appreciate that the workload of the Central Process Unit is huge. However that cannot be used as an excuse for a failure to follow standard procedures."

Lancashire Police said they had an "expectation that staff deliver a totally professional service to the public, and will continue to take a strong and robust approach to improve standards within the organisation".

A spokeswoman added: "There have been lessons learnt from this investigation."

_________________
Views expressed are personal opinions and are not necessarily shared by the Safe Speed campaign
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
eyeopener
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 21:38 
Offline
User

Joined: Sun Oct 08, 2006 16:03
Posts: 154
Location: Merseyside
The IPCC should have raised concerns about the whole scam operation and closed it down. They then should have asked for proper policing to be implemented.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
yimitier
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 06:56 
Offline
User

Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 17:19
Posts: 319
Steve wrote:
Quote:
I bet Yimitier would like this one...


Quite right Steve, but this is simply a couple of scapegoats covering up the real story of Blackburn CTO!
There's a good story to come out of this lot if any reporter cares to get off there a*s* and check out some facts!
Story here:
http://www.lep.co.uk/news/Speed-ticket- ... 5396876.jp

Comment posted from this story is:
Quote:
"I worked in the unit at the time this whole thing started and know the two individuals involved. There is a lot that went on with PSD and the IPCC that isn’t being reported to the media. For someone to receive an oral warning, and the other to be cleared following a formal hearing means that what they did was negligible. These two individuals are being used by PSD and the IPCC to justify what they did and provide scapegoats for the baying motoring lobbies
The real questions that need to be asked are:
Why did it take nearly 2-years for this to be dealt with?
Was there a legal basis for the cancellations as I’m told that there wasn’t, and it was a knee jerk reaction

These two individuals should now be left alone as they have had this hanging over them for the past 2-years. "



These two individuals were discovered because the IPCC were investigating the sacked cameraman.
Their terms of reference were defined by the Chief Constable and he would not allow them to investigate ANYTHING that was outside the employment of the cameraman hence 2006 -7.
The evening post have the guy's( who posted the comment) email address and Matthew Smith is a reporter who just might dig into this story.
The reason that it took 2 years for this diciplinary is that there is still ongoing investigation into the antics that were going on in relation to excessive financial claims made by both Lancashire Constabulary & Lancashire County Council who were raking in millions from the few who simply paid up, whether they were speeding or not.
So there is still the 80,000 plus " dissappeared FPNs that Lancashire Police were paid about £35.00 each (from the income of the muggins motorist who just paid up)for processing through the courts that never made it there!
Am still waiting for info from the NEW Home Secretary where these are or why they never made the courts.
Will keep you posted.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
anton
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 07:15 
Offline
Life Member
Life Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 22:02
Posts: 3266
I have a similar tale in Hampshire. the main cog at the camera partnership refuses to do his job thouroughly. There are no photo checking processes written down, traing is passes by word of mouth. The sites are not checked for correct sinage, 2 ipcc complaints whitewashed, formal complaints to the councils, and chief execs, court cases going to the high court and the man still suvives. I thought he would raise his game and keep his job but the sloppy practices continue. He is untouchable

_________________
Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
jomukuk
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 08:05 
Offline
User

Joined: Sun Sep 03, 2006 04:10
Posts: 3244
All of which goes to prove my statement/s, made many times, that the administrative public services are institutionally corrupt.
Little accountability, little interest, massive incompetence, no serious attempt to ensure that the supposed procedures are followed, over-paid, over-pensioned and little more than a large criminal enterprise.

_________________
The world runs on oil, period. No other substance can compete when it comes to energy density, flexibility, ease of handling, ease of transportation. If oil didn’t exist we would have to invent it.”

56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
yimitier
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 14:06 
Offline
User

Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 17:19
Posts: 319
Anton wrote:
Quote:
He is untouchable


The Blackburn CTO Manager, Adrian Emberton, thought this and where is he now?

It's a long hard road to prove corruption but you must enlist your M.P.

I will delve into Hampshires stats and see what they are up to!
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Mad Moggie
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 07:35 
Offline
User
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 21:41
Posts: 3608
Location: North West
yimitier wrote:
Anton wrote:
Quote:
He is untouchable


The Blackburn CTO Manager, Adrian Emberton, thought this and where is he now?



:scratchchin:

_________________
If you want to get to heaven - you have to raise a little hell!

Smilies are contagious
They are just like the flu
We use our smilies on YOU today
Now Good Causes are smiling too!

KEEP SMILING
It makes folk wonder just what you REALLY got up to last night!

Smily to penny.. penny to pound
safespeed prospers-smiles all round! !
But the real message? SMILE.. GO ON ! DO IT! and the world will smile with you!
Enjoy life! You only have the one bite at it.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Mad Moggie
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 07:46 
Offline
User
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 21:41
Posts: 3608
Location: North West
Story does not surprise either me or Wildy. We've suspected such for years.


I cannot say the folk around here "blat around" and some of the ones we know about are some of those who have had tickets now cancelled... :scratchchin:

_________________
If you want to get to heaven - you have to raise a little hell!

Smilies are contagious
They are just like the flu
We use our smilies on YOU today
Now Good Causes are smiling too!

KEEP SMILING
It makes folk wonder just what you REALLY got up to last night!

Smily to penny.. penny to pound
safespeed prospers-smiles all round! !
But the real message? SMILE.. GO ON ! DO IT! and the world will smile with you!
Enjoy life! You only have the one bite at it.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
SafeSpeedv2
PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 23:57 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 02:17
Posts: 7357
Location: Highlands
I am extremely concerned about this specific injustice. Those lives that may have been ruined due to a numeric error is bad enough but to then find that the fine was never valid and was even deliberately falsified, must be awful. There needs to be proper compensation set up for people.

_________________
Safe Speed for Intelligent Road Safety through proper research, experience & guidance.
Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 1
  [ 9 posts ] 

Board index » Discussion Forums » Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law

All times are UTC [ DST ]

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You can post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
[ Time : 0.092s | 11 Queries | GZIP : Off ]