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I know the bill was passed through parlement earlier in the year but not all the parts of it were made law straight away. I remember reading that it was to be made law at the end of September but I can't find any info from the goverment web sites.
Anyone any ideas ?

Still legal. Last I heard, early next year is when the law to ban them will come into effect, but I have not seen any firm dates for this yet.

Well done to the government for making them illegal I say, there should be no devices that help people to break the law.

Better make CD and DVD burners illegal then!

However, one could argue that detectors assist with the enforcement of the law, since they slow people down when a trap is present. However this is not what the partnerships want of course, they want people to speed so that they can impose a fine.

NO, I am sure they want people to STICK TO THE LIMIT, at ALL times not just past the cameras, that way we will all be safe.
If the idiots just slow down in the vacinity of cameras deaths will not go down (OH deaths not going down isn't that a claim of this site, maybe we now know why!!)

Surely since cameras are located in the most dangerous areas, hence it makes sense you want people to slow down in these locations, so the question remains: Why make something illegal that encourages people to slow down in the vicinity of a camera?

And cars, motorbikes, cycles, computers, phones, power tools, hand tools, kitchen implements...

...hell, let's just ban everything and go back to the stone age...

...ah, hang on, can't do that, someone might use a stone to bash the brains out of someone else

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Chris

Still feeding the troll??????

Does that not contradict your statement of: "The reason I Love safety cameras is that they keep me safe..."

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You cleary have little understanding of reality if you really believe that then.

Why do you suppose that the placard holder who warned of a speed trap ahead was criminalised so harshly then ?

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Richard Ceen
We live in a time where emotions and feelings count far more than the truth, and there is a vast ignorance of science (James Lovelock 2005)

Actually Oscar troll though he may be , saftyman is also a vociferous representative of those who actually do hold views that his posts are supported by. It seems reasonable sport ( and is not that difficult ) to demolish these simplistic arguments which have no logical structure. If he is fool enough to keep at it then let him

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Richard Ceen
We live in a time where emotions and feelings count far more than the truth, and there is a vast ignorance of science (James Lovelock 2005)

Or, to put it simply, he's not a troll. He's just an idiot.

Please - name-calling is never justified to a fellow poster. Attack points not people.

We have too few people on here that are pro-camera. I would be MUCH happier if we encouraged pro-camera people. We have formed collectively, led by Paul, a robust case. It is worthy of being tested, and the more we can encourage to test it as far as I am concerned, the better. Don't rise to bait and send them flying.

"We have formed collectively, led by Paul, a robust case."

NO,NO, No you have no case at All, quite the opposite your arguments that the cameras ar not effective is correct!!
Your reasoning for this is flawed!!, The cameras are innefective because the speding morons know where they are, if they were placed randomly and hidden these speeders would be forced to either slow doen or leave the roads ==real safety!!

Why thank you!


I'm afraid not. Take a look at this, perhaps afterwards you'll understand how even covert cameras won't be effective.

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Or drive whilst banned (on the smaller lesser quality roads where the police aren't), register their vehicles falsely, etc. etc.
People are good at finding ways around things.

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Andrew.

Hey safetyman! Thank you for coming to my rescue. Over many years, I've wasted a lot of time, and that of those people I've held up behind me, by approaching and passing through this level crossing at a speed in the 15-25mph range.

But thanks to your advice, I'm going to start saving time by driving through here at 60mph. That way, I'll be sticking to the limit - at ALL times, just as you advised. You've helped me to see the light. I now realise that it's safe to pass through here at 60mph. Look! There's even a sign on the approach to the crossing, telling me that it's safe!

But on the basis that scamcams are only positioned where there is a genuine blackspot (and that drivers need to be looking at their speedos and not the surrounding danger area), surely TPTB would want EVERYONE to know that they are approaching an area of extreme danger? To that end, if I was in Government, I'd get blackspot notifiers (otherwise known as Radar Detectors) fitted as standard to every car.

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Pecunia Prius Equitas et Salus

Why should they be placed randomly or hidden? ScamCams are SAFETY devices, don't you know, and are only used where there is (or has been) several accidents (ignoring the finer points of RTTM for now...). They're certainly not there just to collect money, are they?

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Pecunia Prius Equitas et Salus

You have to hand it to safety man for extending the posts on this site.

If he had not put his pennys worth in, I would have had only one reply.

Most entertaining.