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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 20:54 
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RobinXe wrote:
Why intentionally install anything which can clearly mangle vehicles with ease into the road when there are far safer alternatives?!


Indeed.

These people could just as easily be fined via CCTV /bus lane cams which is far cheaper than destroying their cars.

Attended conference in London recently. I do not ever travel by car to London. I do dislike our capital city for a number of reasons.. the main one being that I find those who live there surly, cold, callous, singularly unhelpful and just plain incomprehensible to a straightforward Northern bloke like me :wink:

Colleague though chose to use car. We stayed in West End Hotel . a 5 star which is not at all 5 star by Swiss standards of "5 star" :wink:

But that as an aside remark..

My colleague drove out of the hotel's car park.. did not see some sign saying that he could not drive along some road despite whathis Sat Nav said :roll: Fortunately for him. a very friendly cop on a motorbike stopped him and offered some discretion.

Had this bus lane been automated by bollards .. then an innocent mistaken turn from a hotel car park by a complete stranger to the area may have written off his car.

I thus think that whilst we seek to ensure no nuisance to those in any town centre.. those in authority must exercise common sense and make sure all signs are in place and that buses and taxis authorised with a duty of care to passengers have a safe passage through. Errors of this nature just cannot be tolerated. This is life and death and the bus company will suffer loss in insurances too.. because even it they sue those responsible .. there is some opportunity cost to admin staff all the same :roll:

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This video make me realise how very unlike normal road hazards these booby-trap bollards are. A driver with well developed hazard perception would have no reason at all to scan for a hydraulic jack rising out of the road.


Perhaps... However, my hazard peception tends to notice huge LED no-entry signs, easily visible all the way down the road. Also, knowing the area, there are several large red signs a few hundred yards before the no-entry signs indicating that there are automatic bollards ahead and that there is "no tailgating". I might get a picture if I'm in the area. Seriously though, you would have to be blind to not see one of the signs

If drivers drive into them, it is their own fault. However, it does seem a rather harsh punishment for disobeying road signs...

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If drivers drive into them, it is their own fault.


How about if they rise into drivers? If the front of the car is over the bollard so that the bollard strikes the underside of the car, then the car was there first and the hitting is done by the bollard. Whatever the signs say, this shouldn't happen, we have enough people hitting one another on our roads, without installing inanimate objects to join the party. If a car is over the bollard it should be sensed and the bollard stopped; tough titties if someone gets through who shouldn't have, I notice there was a CCTV camera trained on the location, so they'll get theirs.

Looking at the video it seems to me that the way the bollards operate is like shutting the stable door after the horse has half-bolted, and breaking the horse's back!


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And now Durham intends to bill a legitimate motorist for damage to THEIR BOLLARD.

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And now Durham intends to bill a legitimate motorist for damage to THEIR BOLLARD.

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And now Durham intends to bill a legitimate motorist for damage to THEIR BOLLARD.

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Well at least they can no longer deny that they do rise under vehicles, as well as in front. Why aren't the council and the manufacturers being prosecuted?


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Howcome that chap's insurance company hasn't had the balls to take Durham council to court for laying a booby trap?

Unf**believable.


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Whilst I am inclined to disagree with the use of the term 'booby trap', to bill someone for accidental damage caused to a device operating in such a dubious manner is positively vile.

I sense a flury of online dictionary searches going on in the background... :hehe:


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Howcome that chap's insurance company hasn't had the balls to take Durham council to court for laying a booby trap?


Insurance companies are probably quite used to paying out for damage to public property. They probably won't stop to consider the rights and wrongs - unless someone has a word in their shell-like...

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