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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 08:55 
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Cycling set to be banned from Stevenage town centre
28 February 2011 Last updated at 13:48

Stevenage town centre People will still be able to park their bikes in Stevenage town centre

Stevenage Borough Council is planning to ban cycling in pedestrianised areas of the town centre.
The council is currently consulting town centre retailers on the proposals, which are likely to come into force in April.
The affected areas include Queensway, Market Place, Town Square, Park Place, The Forum, Southgate and Towers Path.

The council said it was to improve safety. A cycling group said it was mystified by the plans.
New signs will be put in place to inform cyclists of the restrictions and new cycle stands will be provided in the town centre area.

Enforcement of the order will be carried out by the police.
Jim Brown from the Cyclists' Touring Club in Stevenage and North Hertfordshire said he was 'slightly mystified' because it seemed to be an order which prevented people cycling where people should not be cycling anyway.
"The strange thing is that Stevenage is supposed to be supporting cycling and has had a cycleway network since the 1950s, but we seem to have ended up with a situation where you can get closer to the shops by car than you can by bike," he said.

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Labour councillor John Gardner, Executive Member for Environment and Regeneration at Stevenage Borough Council, said it was only 'popular belief' that cycling was already prohibited throughout the town centre.
"Actually under the traffic regulations, not all of [it] was covered so this regularises the position throughout," he said.
"The majority of cyclists in Stevenage do not cycle in the town centre. It is only a small number of people who make life very, very uncomfortable and potentially dangerous for both the young and the elderly and maybe even the able-bodied on occasions."

He said the town remained bike friendly.
"The policy is to encourage people to cycle into the town centre, just as we encourage motorists to come to the town centre, and get out of their cars and off their bikes and walk around," he said.
It sounds like a few inconsiderate cyclists seem to be 'responsible' for this decision by the Council which is very sad. It would have been better to provide more police to remind errant cyclists to much more consideration towards others, and to have provided better or more cycle parking facilities anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:13 
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i wonder how long before the first cyclist fails to stop for a PCSO, i can imaging CCTv follow air support finaly stopped by traf pol with with stinger then chased and mauled by a police dog


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The clue is in the title.

Pedestrianised areas. Which part of this did cyclists not understand?

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Enforcement of the order will be carried out by the police.


I've watched a PCSO trying to do this in Boscombe, it won't work unless there's some back up attempt to apprehend, like one sees around ANPR set ups.


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malcolmw wrote:
The clue is in the title.

Pedestrianised areas. Which part of this did cyclists not understand?

It is actually legal for cyclists to ride in pedestrian areas (and footpaths) unless specifically forbidden by signs. It is only pavements (at the side of a road) where this is not allowed. Of course, the cyclists should be considerate if they do cycle in the pedestrian area. It is sensible, however, for councils to forbid cycling in pedestrian areas that are very busy, and that is what the council there seem to be doing. A bit of a non-story really.

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"Cyclists are part of the traffic"

"Cyclists should be allowed in pedestrianised areas when they aren't too busy"

Cake anyone?

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RobinXe wrote:
"Cyclists should be allowed in pedestrianised areas when they aren't too busy"

Not "should"; "are". I am stating facts, not expressing opinions. You really need to work on your English comprehension.

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MrGrumpyCyclist wrote:
RobinXe wrote:
"Cyclists should be allowed in pedestrianised areas when they aren't too busy"

Not "should"; "are". I am stating facts, not expressing opinions. You really need to work on your English comprehension.


Not arguing, Grumps, but just want clarification :) Are pedestrianised areas not covered by the Highways Act or the Road Traffic Acts?

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dcbwhaley wrote:
MrGrumpyCyclist wrote:
RobinXe wrote:
"Cyclists should be allowed in pedestrianised areas when they aren't too busy"

Not "should"; "are". I am stating facts, not expressing opinions. You really need to work on your English comprehension.

Not arguing, Grumps, but just want clarification :) Are pedestrianised areas not covered by the Highways Act or the Road Traffic Acts?

No problem. The BikeForAll page on "Cycling and the Law" has a good explanation of all of this. The most relevant bits of text as far as the Highways Act is concerned are:
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The primary legislation which makes cycling on a footway an offence is section 72 of the 1835 Highways Act

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The object of Section 72 Highways Act 1835 was intended not to protect all footpaths, but only footpaths or causeways by the side of a road, and that this is still the case has been ruled in the high court.

I don't think the Road Traffic Act has anything to say on the matter.

I have to admit, I was surprised when I learned this. However, it is often the case that cycling is prohibited as indicated by signs installed by the local authorities; usually quite rightly in my view.

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MrGrumpyCyclist wrote:
RobinXe wrote:
"Cyclists should be allowed in pedestrianised areas when they aren't too busy"

Not "should"; "are". I am stating facts, not expressing opinions. You really need to work on your English comprehension.


I was not suggesting they were or weren't, merely highlighting a dichotomy of opinion as expressed/implied across various posts.

When you react so defensively it is rather telling.

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