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The words to notice here are:

"a government-commissioned study"

You can immediately discount this work as lies and spin. You will note that there isn't a category for "stupidly riding up the inside of artics turning left".

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

From personal experience I would say the majority of my near misses or none misses when cycling have been down to poor drivers. Then of course I would say that wouldn't I?

The risky behaviour that has been picked amounts to 4.5% of accidents, the CTC thinks this is inconsequential and driving standards should be targeted.

This campaign uses the low percentage of accidents caused by breaking the speed limit as part of the argument that poor driving is what needs targeting not technical offences.

Funny how CTC and Safe Speed can agree isn't it?

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Driving fast is for a particular time and place, I can do it I just only do it occasionally because I am a gentleman.
- James May

Excellent.

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

In the same way as some motorcyclists say that the majority of motorcycle accidents are due to SMIDSYs by other road users. The report doesn't exclude the possibility that cycle accidents result from general mistakes and errors of judgment by cyclists as opposed to specific behaviours, although inevitably some will interpret it in that way.

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

The report does appear to have some balance to it, I was pointing out that my experience which leads me to agree with it is bound to have some observer bias.

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Driving fast is for a particular time and place, I can do it I just only do it occasionally because I am a gentleman.
- James May

Strange the saying that we're always learning -and saw something today that falls into that category and into the risky cycling bit as well . Driving through town, there was a yoof on a bike -sort that looks too small for te rider -the sort that works it's way down the road ,then alternates between pavement and road to the lights ,and crosses using the pedestrian crossing .
But on the pavement -badly needing some attention ,with ice and frozen snow,his rear wheel slid ,causing the rear end of the bike to career toward the road . Call it instinct ,because that's all I can ,I came accross this one today - no problems , I was far enough away,and travelling at low speed .Had he slid into the road ,I'd have missed him ,because old lizard man had moved my right foot to the brake -JUST IN CASE .

But -it's a warning ,for all of us -4 wheel and two wheel - WE CAN ALL SKID -I used to love trying to find how to counter it on a racing style bike - and that's not much fun ,narrow tyres and icy pavements -it's good training for driving too.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Wasn't there a study recently that suggested that female cyclists were more risk-averse, and conversely this made them more prone to accidents?

This would tie in with this study, wouldn't it?

Was this ("Are women cyclists in more danger than men?") what you're referring to?

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Spot on. Once again let down by my utter laziness to back up my remembering of past threads.

[Pedant mode]How exactly does this vindicate listening to music players whilst riding as safe!?[/Pedant mode]

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Regulation without education merely creates more criminals.

Or the activity classed as downright dangerous in a car - using a mobile. Then again ,if those cyclists can't see, ignore or just don't know what a "NO cycling sign in pedestrian areas means ......................

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on