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Again - a excellent piece.

He advises very similar to Franklin and my own post way back when Paul initiated this section of his board

Basically - look for a bigger gap as that driver is more than likely to be COAST styled

Make sure you signal your intention and use good judgement as to whether the driver really is going to let you in

Peace also advises not to pull out in front of other two wheelers and HGVs as they need longer stopping distances

He also advises that the HGVs may be in the "wong lane" to turn left for a reason - as in they need to space .. so NO to riding up thire nearside!

Approach in the correct gear - prepared to stop on the Give Way line buit also prepared to go if you can.. and to be asseritve - making good eye contact with the numpties out there

However this bit of his piece - I think well worthy of quoting and perhaps discussing.



Only a foolish planner would deliberately obscure visibility - but after an article some weeks back in "Auto Express" - this is NOT the only problem. "Auto Express" journalists on their Inside Story piece highlighted greedy councils who offer advertisement hoardings on the traffic islands. We've all seen them and I agree with Kevin Delaney - like the motorway hoardings - they can distract driver and cyclist alike.

So - my view. Nowt to do with "slowing down traffic. All to do with bad planning on the one hand and greed on the other.

Am I right? Discuss

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Take with a chuckle or a grain of salt
Drive without COAST and it's all your own fault!

A SMILE is a curve that sets everything straight (P Diller).

A Smiley Per post
FINES USfor our COAST!

Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon - but driving with a smile and a COAST calm mind.

There was a post some time ago about enquiries into fencing on/near an island -can't remember the outcome. We had similar on the A444 - mounds of earth were placed on the central reservations restricting visibility on the approach to the island. Done on the grounds of safety ---apparently this was to cut down on the amount of rear enders, by making all vehicles stop. Trouble is that it only applied to cars --anything bigger could see over them .
Would have thought that it would make more sense to remove all /any obstructions on roundabouts and educate road users to look ahead --but the "safety experts " seem to think differently.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Then a lot of them are fools.

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Andrew.

Anyone joined the M25 at Leatherhead coming from the A243? A few years ago now they put up common-or-garden (well, specifically the latter, actually) six foot fences in the central reservation on the approach to the roundabouts at either end of the dual carriageway link under the M25, deliberately obscuring your view as you approach.

I think they have been slightly adjusted since, but surely this can't be the answer?

Ian

Agreed.
This is so common that it must be deliberate planning. It is based on the growing concept that 'The more dangerous it appears - the safer it must ultimately be'.

Indeed, they are fools.

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It's tricky doing nothing - you never know when you're finished

yes.. it's hideous and inefficient.
it does force you to slow down however, although excessively slow if it turns out to be clear.