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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 00:25 
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Back in 1999 he got Alex Ferguson off a motoring charge . Tummy upset. :roll:


In the Magazine he argues that he is not Mr Loophole but Mr Lawyer (Andreas - the "Lycra Arsonist" :evil: pulled that one on us when I first met him -same argument) ..as Freeman says

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Mr Lawyer means you have legal knowledge and being able to think on your feet. Loophole means sinister and underhand and I'm straight forward


(As we know IG has passed comment a few times in the past that police paperwork is just as much on trial as the accused as if they get it wrong.. people like Nick Freeman and that Swiss legal loon Andreas will just pounce on any shortcoming and unravel it until it does indeed become a "loophole")

Like all defence lawyers - Freeman will look for a way to discredit the evidence against his client or seek to mitigate the wrong doing to get the best outcome for his client. That's the nature of the job.. to get a seed of doubt or an ounce of compassion to reduce a sentence orlet's not forget the other important role of defence lawyers - to prove innocence if wrongly accused.

However, in the light of the police stating they will target any driver they think got off on a technical shortcoming on their part Auto Express got the great Nick to cast eye on the internet fora.

: :lol: He must have lurked on 'ere :lol:

But this is a campaign site for road safety and we tend to point folks in the general direction of "pepipoo... "

Nick looked at the "main" ones

Auto Infozone www.autoinfozone.com

Not free - you have to pay £26 in dollars to download the article "How To Avoid Paying Your Fines" article.

£26 for 7 pages of A4... and Nick was scathing.

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I have not read anything which tells me how to wriggle out of my fine here. Loosely worded and light hearted banter

[i] It would be better to to expalin lucidly what the defence for a speeding charge is. and It is:

"I cannot tell you who the driver is because I have exercised all reasonable diligence and I am unable to ascertain this.

It's not a loophole - it's the law and this is a specific defence under S172 of the Road Traffic Act
So this document is no use to me at any price


(That's what he said per the article in "Auto Express - Inside Story page 37)


UK DRIVING SECRETS GUIDE

www.driving-secrets.com

Not heard of this.. but then ...

You pay £18 to download the information as to "how to discover the secret loopholes" plus some draft letters to copy out.

Per the article - NickF found the loopholes :wink: in the advice... They claimed "£1000 to £2,500 max for speeding on motorway. Nick F says they can fine up to £5,000 :yikes:

As he read on.. he could not find the "big secret" - more what can happen to them if they drive above the speed limit. The guide claims "radar" to be the most popular means of detection.

You almost hear the explosive "Pah" from reading the page. He cannot remember the last radar case.. it's mostly vans these days... with "slippage" :wink: as his pet line.


The site goes on to talk about VASCAR

Nick Freeman wrote:

When it talks about VASCAR - a device that let's a moving police vehicle measure another vehicle's speed - the site simply says the device must be calibrated at least once per year. It does not cover the exact minutiae. This is superficial knowledge and it's not a case of asking if it's been calibrated. It's actually a very complicated area.

This document gives false hope and much from the so-called ACPO guidelines. But it is not a defence.


Naturally Nick does not go into what could be a defence as if he did .. well - he's not about to divulge the stuff which commands his fees :wink:

As for the draft letters.. these cost £40 to download.

He reckons the one asking for a photo of the driver is "shooting yourself in the foot as you must know if you were driving. Also most of these are from the rear so they don't actually prove that much . Moroever - you are outlining your defence at the start. Better to wait.. get the evidence later when they file for court appearances and then see which way best to go with it."

Nick liked the second letter on offer though whereby the person lists the persons who could have been driving as "this shows person has shown due and reasonable diligence and laid the foundations of a defence. But prosecutors see this coming and you are forced to give evidence on oath. Fibbing on oath is something else :wink: "

Yep.. perjury.. :roll: perverting the course of justice.. :roll: But we know this is a knock on effect of scamming which would not occur if a real policeman did the sleuthing. :roll: :wink:

Freeman's clients rarely give evidence on the stand. "He does not get hemmed into a narrow corner or parking bay that easily :wink:

pepipoo www.pepipoo.com

"reveals to the drivers, clearly and concisely, how the police and judiciary deal with allegations of motoring offences and provides the information motorists need to defend themselves "

Pepipoo suggests getting the video evidence. Nick disagrees on the basis that this may contain the evidence which goes against you. He says he has umpteen cases whereby the prosecution has not even submitted the video and reckons this advice a bit superficial.

Pepipoo mentions Nick's case involving Dwight Yorke.

Freeman wrote:

Dwight received a NOIP and his agent completed it. We said he could not be found guilty because he had not signed it himself. We took it to Crown Court and we lost. We took it back to court on appeal and this court held that the prosecution could not prove Dwight was speeding as it was relying on confession evidence which was not signed by the defendant. This information given by pepipoo is then correct and valid.


Speed Trap Bible

www.speed-trap.co.uk has everything you need to know about speed trap "weaponry."
The Bible is useful for this information - but Nick disputes the advice that anyone convicted with an enhanced photo should get a pardon.

Nick Freeman wrote:

Section 20 of the Road Traffic Offender's Act requires police to produce a record from a prescribed device. I.m not aware of anything that precludes enhancing a photo - as long as it contains the relevant time, date and speed data.

If enlarged and does not provide speed data - then it fails to comply with S20. I do not think a loophole.. but a photo which does not contaain the relevant information


But if it does not show the speed - Nick in case you lurk here :wink: - how does one know how fast the car was going?

RMB Consulting


www.rmbconsulting.co.uk

Nick was impressed with this one. Richard Bentley - a traffic sign and road management expert is the webmaster.

This site impressed Nick who learned a lot about traffic signs from it :wink:

Never heard of this site until we read this piece in the mag... but I am proud to say that it contains the very same advice my wife has given over on PH: Go to scene of alleged crime and take photos of all signs and the road. Blimey .. we told Eddy Brain to do this .. GOSH and the advice on this site and the great Nick even approves of the common sense feline approach to life .. blimey :shock: :shock:

In fact - Nick does say to take a video of the route and show it to him to give him a flavour of the scene and approaches to argue. Blimey.... and we had not read this when we gave Ed Brain our take of his dilemma. Hmmm! - more sour grapes for BC to choke on ... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :hehe:

Pistonheads

www.pistonheads.com

I agree.. "REPUTABLE SITE :bow: I post there sometimes :wink: ..My wife flirts on there :roll: .. and has some interesting exchanges with BiBs on the site. :? 8-) :P

This piece draws on the Observe piece which appeared both over there and on this site: the one about the registering cars at a mass mailing address. Police find a PO Box front but no means of identifying the driver via the NIP.

Freeman would never advise this practice ... but PH is not a "defence" site. It's a site where enthusiasts talk "car" and there are umpteen specialist fora to chat cars on.. rally... track.. Marques.. Specific Makes,.., PH Local.. SP&L (what's in the news) .. Gassing - car.. Gassing .. set the world straight in the Pie and Piston.... ) and here we have Gen Chat .. Soap Box.. Cycling.. etc.. News.. and so on.. The article was on here in either Chat or News.. and registered users simply voiced their opinions on the topic... mostly in line with Nick as in BAD IDEA!

Of course Nick was not impressed with the internet trawl. He recommends proper personal advice. He agrees that pepipoo, safespeed, PH and RMB have accurate data.. but you do need a real lawyer to get acquitted or a mitigation in sentence.

He has his own site now. Will cost you £99 per year to subscribe and view his advice and ask him and lawyers he approves of questions 24/7.

Phone 0870 460 7007 for some help or

for a £99 annual fee.. check out

wwwfreemankeepondriving.co.uk.

Thought I should place this on here for those who don't get the mag.

Lots of other good stuff and reviews by the way :wink: But buy yer own! :lol:

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A colleague used Nick Freeman to defend at a speeding case, apparently it cost over ten grand.


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mpaton2004 wrote:
A colleague used Nick Freeman to defend at a speeding case, apparently it cost over ten grand.

Was he acquitted?


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