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Just recieved another NIP (60 in a 50) from a mobile speed camera van, the photo/evidence was taken from the front of the vehicle.
If i name another driver (a family member who is happy to take the rap!) is there any way the evidence could prove otherwise who is driving??
Are the photo's clear enough to prove who is or not driving??
Any help greatfully recieved or any other ideas!!
RR

You've as good as admitted it was you driving - I don't think you'll receive much help in your attempts to get yourself strung up for perverting the course of justice here;
http://www.pepipoo.com may be of more help.

Woah! You need to be EXTREMELY cautious with that approach. You could get banged up. You have already left enough information around to be traceable and this is a public forum - anyone can read it and they do.

Better news is that the laser speed meter used in these vans is an unreliable piece of ****. See: http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6376

But the best free advice on the net is available from Pepioo.

And one quick tip - DON'T be in a hurry to send the NIP back - they gave you 28 days and it's very much in your interests to take every one of those 28 days.

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Ok, well i'm certainly not up for doing bird!!
I'm sure everyone knows what it's like when it arrives, blood boiling rage etc, your first idea is to to see what you can do to avoid it!!
Is there a law on positioning of these van as the one i've been zapped on was around a bend and i've heard that they must be one a certain length of straight road??
Thanks for your advice so far y'all!!

RR

'PEPIPOO is the place for you!"
Be very, very careful what you post on any speed camera related web site. The Camera Pratnerships do mointor what's posted and in Cumbria they caught someone who posted that his girlfriend had 'taken the rap'. The end result was that he and his girlfriend were both interviewed by the old bill and admitted what they had done. They nearly went inside. Maybe their mistake, after posting the 'confession' in trhe first place, was to admit it to police officers rather than to decline to say anything under caution. One might suspect that without such a confession the CPS would not have taken it to court as relying on a web-site posting and a camera photo would be a bit 'iffy' for them and the poster need say nothing further.
However, it's unwise to post anything like this as we are not here to try to pervert the course of justice or encourage anyone else to do so.
One thing I have wondered about is what happens with a vehicle registered to a company when the NiP is sent to the Co. Sec'y who names a person who could have been driving that day. If that person, a company employee, then denies having been driving the vehicle and disclaims being the keeper or driver on the day in question, for whom do the Pratnership go for 'S172 failure to name the driver'? I do know companies who use pool cars and the person they might name could well not be the user on the day in question. Some companies require the normal employee-user to leave his/her keys with reception during the day and anyone can take the keys and use the vehicle. I know my former company did this and often someone who was just 'nipping out' to see a client for an hour or so would take the easiest car to get out of the car park, just taking the keys from the rack in reception. No record was kept of this, not was a record legally required to be kept. Didn't this happen with a Police Service somewhere a while back?

A company can be fined for S172 but no points added, companies don't have driving licenses. The scammers will lie through their back teeth to try and get someone (anyone) to admit to driving though

front view, unless in poor light good driver id,

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If anyone bothers to check the face on the photo against the face taking the points. If it's all dealt with by fixed penalty then I doubt anyone checks tapes against licence photos.

Firstly really should go back on what you said. You can't lie to get yourself off a crime. Forums members are tracible for your own sake be careful.
If your unsure of the driver of a vehicle, all you need to do is write back to the Camera Partnership after you've got the Notice (time limit so don't delay to much)
Say having problems identifing driver at time please can I request a copy of the photos to help id driver.
Most will send photo which may show driver, probably not. Pepipoo gives more detail. There's lots of info on FAQ sections. Give it a try for future reference.