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Got flashed quite horribly. 41 in a 30, happened in APril on 10th at 1am (ish).

driving towards town centre

i sent the may letter back to them signed and stuff and with payment details. Unfortunatly the payment bounced and didnt hear anything until now wheen i got a letter of intended prosecution.

i'm fcuked well and truely... if i get a crimincal record i won't be able to practise law when i'm older!!! fcuked well and truely :(:(:(:(:(:(:(

what should i do?

They got my admission on signature and picture with me driving on the white lines... please help, i really am sh!tting my bricks!!

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i also just read they got six months from the date of me being flashed... the october 5th date will be 5 days befor the expiry date. can i delay this further so that the hearing is past the six months preiod in which they are alowed to prosecute me?

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The best site for this sort of thing is http://forums.pepipoo.com .

What I will say is that you needn't worry about the criminal record side of things, as speeding is not a criminal offence that you need to disclose, even if it goes to court. If it was then we wouldn't have many lawyers, doctors etc left by now!

And sadly the 6 month rule applies to when the papers are laid at the court, and this has clearly happened on time. There's nothing you can do now on that front.

There are certainly things you can still try, although you would have had a better chance of success if you'd asked on forums back in April. I'm no legal expert so I'll leave further suggestions to others on here and Pepipoo.

Try not to worry though; if you're convicted (which to be honest is likely because the system is arguably biased against those charged with speeding), you'll only get a fine of around £100 and 3-4 points (undesirable I know but hardly the end of the world). Many people are picking up points these days, and it's become so meaningless that your insurance may not even go up.

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"The freedom provided by the motor vehicle is not universally applauded, however: there are those who resent the loss of state control over individual choice that the car represents. Such people rarely admit their prejudices openly; instead, they make false or exaggerated claims about the adverse effects of road transport in order to justify calls for higher taxation or restrictions on mobility." (Conservative Way Forward: Stop The War Against Drivers)

Mate, i so don't care about the fine or points I DESERVE THEM!.

My main worry was the criminal record side of things, and if you're right then i'm going to buy you one FAT pint after which i'll get mum to send u a home made chicken curry... Poor me up will 4am last night worrying *sob sob*

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Just to clarify...

Speeding IS a criminal offence. But it is not a 'recordable' offence and does not create a criminal record.

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Okay, thanks admin. So does this mean i can still become a hotshot lawyer even with this offence?

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Given the talent, the hard work, the time, and the dodgy attitude, obviously...

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

And the ability to increment the bill every 6 min.

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

Why do you? Were you driving dangerously?

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Ah, the ever-faithful 'unit'...

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Pecunia Prius Equitas et Salus

I should have phrased it better. I meant "It is a criminal offence, but not one that you need to disclose". Same difference as far as this chap is concerned anyway.

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Paul Smith: a legend.

"The freedom provided by the motor vehicle is not universally applauded, however: there are those who resent the loss of state control over individual choice that the car represents. Such people rarely admit their prejudices openly; instead, they make false or exaggerated claims about the adverse effects of road transport in order to justify calls for higher taxation or restrictions on mobility." (Conservative Way Forward: Stop The War Against Drivers)

Good morning Gents.

I wasn't driving dangerously, just excessively as a new driver with limited driving experience and therefore skills. I had just finished work when i got a call from my mate, coincidently disqualified for drink driving, but "he doesn't drive as he's not got a car at the moment". Thing is i really did need a poopoo, which at work to do so is unsuitable due to the poor condition of the gents toilets.

Now my friend had done me a few favgours in his day, such as picking me up on a sunday morning at 9.30am from hitchin. He came from the bedford area to pick me up and drop me home because i had no change. He was stuck in dunstable and was too far for him to walk home which he would have.

So i picked the lads up after a night out. As i really needed to go to the toilet the pain was getting excessive. This impaired my driving to the extent that i was wholly unaware of the speed i was going until i got flashed.

The car at the time urgently needed repairs as the ABS wasn't correctly working which extended my braking distance, combined with the 5 fully grown men in a 1ltr mk4 polo meant my braking distance was outside of what i am normally used to for my little car.

The motor wasn't in the best of mechanical conditions, and i am able to get a mechanical note confirming such issues with the vehicle. The worst thing was i came off a country lane the very next day, literally, due to bad brakes. As i was, and still am, a novice driver i wasn't aware of the seriousness of the mechanical issues relating to my vehicle before going off road.


And so, your honours, i ask you to bare in mind the mitigating factors related to my case when passing on your sentence. Late night, just finished work, urgently and desperately needed o go to the loo, asked to pick an old friend up from JJ's in D'able, and being the good Samaritan that i am i did indeed so though my health was at risk from the uncomfortable situation i was in. at no other time was i speeding, and my previous clean record can confirm that.

I also have ambitions to be a lawyer one day sir/ ma'am and do not wish under any circumstances to endanger my potential legal career...

p.s. i read in daily express that this lawyer dude got celebrities off motoring offences... will this story work, if i can provide evidence that the car was a bit iffy?

trust: Speeding. mates needed dropping off home, next man my mate had a fight and knocked this geezer out and was needingwaiting for me. had to drop ppl home from D'able to luton town, then shoot back to get my other mate b4 he got nicked. car really was dodgy, abs, and 4 diff sized wheels... and i've only been driving, well, was driving from jan-april. i done pass plus and stuff...

so,
what say you muggles? will i merely get a fine and points? i say i deserve the points because i was speeding, but i really was wholly unaware that my payment bounced... i mean i barely get time to check mail... working 7days and 3 nights really does limit the time u have to yourself...

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If you claim that you were driving a defective car the magistraites will increase your penalty. Their view is there is no excuse for speeding. The car sounds like it should not have been on the road. Abs does not help breaking unless you are panic breaking. It is more likly to be leakey brakes or air in the system. If you ever had to limp home in a defective car you should be driving gingerly, not over the limit. If you cant slow down for a speed sign how are you going to stop if someone pulls out on you?

I earlier wondered why a trainee solicitor needed to know the basics of motoring law. I have doubts about your thread. There is no way someone who is making so many mistakes will get qualified as a soilicitor!
If you are genuine you need to change you attitude 100% to risk.

Probobly another bored copper wasting public money surfing the net?

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

I say it's a pisstake.

If not you deserve all you get, and more.

I was adamant I wasn’t going to be the first to jump in with a negative response this time. Seeing as others have now passed comment:

How can someone aspiring to be a lawyer of all professions, be so daft as to consider volunteering needless information which would obviously worsen his case?

100% agree with Homer's sentiments.

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thanks for the defective car tip. aspiring solicitor i.e. taking gap year ( or 2) b4 starting law at uni. Looks like i'm just gona have to bite the bullet... with the signature thing, i was plain dumb when i thought about it afterwards... i done law at a level, none of my modules were motoring related in the slightest. Shoulda read up on motoring law first b4 coming on here... or come on here first before now... i'm screwed...

I do believe that legal funding is now gone for motoring offences isn't it? if this is the case then should i get a solicitor will i have to pay out my own pocket for the service?

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also other drivers have gotten away with such excuses (barring defective car bit). ANd yes it shouldn't have been on the road but financial problems meant it was.

These excuses have seen other ppl get off with it... i so shouldn't have signed up. i may just send the letter off to the court and plead guilty by post... if i do so will they throw the book at me?

in the mitigating circumctances space can you guys reccomend me some factors which i should put there to lighten the penalty pls.

p.s. does it matter how long after u got flashed they send a letter?

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spoke to geoffry miller solicitors who gave me excellent advice in the 30mins free phone call i requested. they're motoring specialist layeyers and me would strongly reccomend them to anyone...

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what is the purpose of you posting here?

Free advertising by the look of it.

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