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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 22:19 
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Yes you are entitled to see the evidence in advance. If you decide you want to see it you'll have to wait for the summons and enter a not guilty plea. They should send you the 'photographic evidence' at least 7 days in advance to allow you to review it and obtain legal advice should you so choose. (This is all based on the assumption that it was your car, registered in your name and you've returned the Notice of Intended Prosecution naming yourself as the driver.)

www.pepipoo.com has far more info on the court process as it applies to speeding, if you want to know more. The NIP itself should explain the procedure in more detail as well.

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I doubt you have the organisation and luck to win. I would keep a low profile, hope for a fixed penalty offer and 3 points and have to spend 3 years driving round like a saint on 9 points.

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I'm sending off the NIP form today..will have some time to think about what to do..I'm thinking of either going into court and pleading guilty with the hope that I'll get a short ban..or plead guilty by post with a letter of mitigation. I saw somewhere that solicitors will write you one for £99, that will increase your chances of a more lenient sentance..anybody had any experience of this??

As for the 3 points..as far as I understand, that won't happen due to the speed I was travelling, unless you know of cases where it has happened..


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As has been said, get over to pepipoo for sound advice. However, if you plead NG (to illicit the evidence), which should arrive at least a week before the trial date (and if it doesn't, request an adjournment), you can review the evidence and then, if appropriate, change your plea, with or without your £99 letter), and your original NG plea should have absolutely no bearing on sentence as you've pleaded guilty before ioncurring the courts any expense.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 13:23 
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fisherman wrote:
Official view is that failing to consider a posted limit as the maximum speed allowable when conditions permit is an example of poor driving.
When really, in most cases, it is merely a technical offence but one that keeps the dosh pouring in...

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phoenix69 wrote:
The NIP stated that they have photographic evidence that they can show me in court. Can I request to see that beforehand? In the area where I supposedly got caught the speed limit changes from 70 to 50 so there is a possibility that I may have been speeding.

At the moment in Unemployed and have a girlfriend who's moved back to Wales. She's expecting so I'll need the car to visit her! Don't know if this classes exceptional hardship or not..


I doubt it. Best check the train timetable. :(

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Hi All!

I've received my next letter after identifying myself as the driver. I've now received a CONDITIONAL OFFER OF FIXED PENALTY LETTER. I was suprised as I was travelling 76mph on 50mph limit. On the letter it doesn't indicate the speed i was travelling. I was under the impression that travelling at this speed I would not be given this option. I had been in fear that I would receive 6 points and a heavy fine. (I have 6 prior points which are awaiting to be added at the Fixed penalty office).

I have a temporary paper license. Should I send this in? Also, just wondering if by receiving a conditional offer that I will not be bought into court in light of travelling over the fixed penalty thresh hold. Please advise.


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This sounds odd. Pepipoo might really be your best option for more detailed advice.

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I've tried Pepipoo..i find I get a better response on here to be honest..


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A fixed penalty is the lightest sentence so IF you are sure you were doing the speed alleged then it would seem to be a good idea to take it. The alternative is to plead not guilty and look for loopholes.

Is the temporary paper licence a reciept you were given when they took your licence to put points on it? If so then they may refuse the fixed penalty as they can't endorse your licence at once or they may stick with the fixed penalty and ask you to send the licence in as soon as you get it back.

If you do end up in court, you will need to take the temporary paper to court, assuming your licence doesn't arrive back in time. The court will probably deal with everything on the day but order you to surrender your licence when it comes back.


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