Gatsobait wrote:
How about simplifying it a bit and having A and B licenses for advanced and basic. Since the standard driving test doesn't include motorway tuition call it a B license, and have B license holders barred from driving on the motorway unsupervised. Possibly have a lower threshold for penalty points before you have to do a retest. Then make the current Pass Plus include motorway tuition (if it doesn't already) and more demanding, generally make Pass Plus teach safe driving to a higher standard. That get's you an A license which allows you on the motorway.
Said it before - if the Krauts can include Autobahn run on their L-test and not have any incidents with their Learners - then we superior Brits can cope and do better!
Pass Plus is optional at the moment and does include the drive on the fast road and a night drive - according to our family members whose kids have done this. We say this should be compulsory withing probationary period at the very least.
Problem with this - what do you do if numpty wants to go on motoring hols in EU - bit of a sod to administrate across all member states. Also - our new members - direst standards - and can we realistically test to our standards once they have come over here and disappeared! Germany does insist that non EU citizens take German test within set period of time - think it is 12 months - but cannot remember exactly - only know that US friend had to do this few years back when he was on research contract in Gottingen. Original (pre 1st May04) EU members are exempt under existing legislation as far as I know - but maybe this will change as substandard motorists hit our roads. (Germany blames their current RTA rate on those Trabi trained ex-Stasi muppets
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Still say best way forward in relatively immediately realisable time is to train up ADIs for routine graded assessments with reasonable carrots and booby prizes (full long retest!). The decent grades may even provide the motivation to achieve higher goals - and the prizes include VED "holiday" and/or reduced rate plus further insurance discount for the turbo charged motor
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Gatsobait wrote:
Since everyone on the motorway should then be of a higher standard the speed limit could be raised. It could also be tied in to performance restrictions e.g. B licenses would have a maximum power:weight ratio, or perhaps anything with a sub 10 seconds 0-60 time would need an A license. I reckon very few people would be satisfied with a B license, as most people would want to use motorways at some point, and many cars would be over the power limit. Again, B license holders could drive a more powerful car under supervision. Hopefully this would make things simpler for the police to enforce.
From what I gather from In Gear's and our other tame family puss cops' rants to us - they have enough bother enforcing the law to current miscreants. And you would still have the problem of lesser qualifieds driving the top family driver's car to the shops or simply just taking over the driving on long journey - whilst the top stream driver has a kip!
Gatsobait wrote:
Badly driven car on the m-way and no passenger - pull 'em and see if they've got an A or B license. If it seems like a car has more power than it's driver has skill, pull 'em and see if they've got an A or B license. This would mean that having your driving license with you would have to be compulsory, and we'd also need loads more trafplods. Personally I think both of those would be a good idea anyway.
We do need the trafpols - but when you read that they are cutting training by as much as 5 weeks, and replacing with these auxiliary cops - and conning us that "they are recruiting cops!".... We also have these HighWay Patrols being tried out in the Midlands - or somewhere. (Read so many papers - you lose track!
) Again - not the real thing!
Gatsobait wrote:
IAM and RoSPA passes could still be worth a few quid off insurance, but from our experience the only insurers that offered a discount were the ones with ridiculously high premiums in the first place, so perhaps a reduction in VED might be better. Okay, there's still the problem of reduced revenue if everyone got A licenses, but that's Gordon Brown's problem.
IAM /RoSPA passes - given that we will be driving flashiest motors on which we get special deal on production of our turbo charged super clean licences ---special card at the petrol pump - which means NO tax, duty, vat on our fuel. Plus large discount on insurance, and freeparking everywhere and anytime-- and free VED!
Now there's an incentive...... (of course to make up Gordon's deficit --- I then get clobbered all the harder on my income tax, council tax - and they will introduce variety of taxes - on the cat, dog, budgie, goldfish, golf club membership
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