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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 01:24 
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I often check the "around the UK "pages on teletext for up north news,and this one cropped up, although its not showing on the main BBC site. It's like a Brake initiative to restrict drivers by age to 20 zones etc/etc. Apparently kids up north are at greater risk of a RTA. No facts/ reasons given, but I remember in my travels around Scottish estates in the 70's, kids ( of a young age playing on roads was something to look out for), and it';s spread .

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Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 00:35 
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Not seen or heard anything about that but it's silly because the highest concentration of homes are focused on the (pointless and more dangerous) 20mph zones!
How can you stop someone from driving home? Or would they planning to provide alternative parking locations for those under a suitable 'age'?
Following on with the concept, if someone has passed the driving test are they suggesting that they are somehow unfit to drive ?

I found this and it would be amusing if it weren't all so terribly serious but from the website of RSGB : ... chools.pdf

If you could do one thing...”Nine local actions to reduce health inequalities" by Danny Dorling of Halford Mackinder Professor of Geography at the University of Oxford

However even after only reading the first sections they immediately have failed to allow for the economic recession and therefor it's recovery beginning where we know that the KSI increase (exactly what we are now beginning to see in the figures)...

I have found this STV article on Brake wanting 20mph to be the standard urban speed! : ... ity-brake/
(Goodness knows what 'survey' they did to get their figures - although since when should we run road safety policy, off surveys I can't imagine!

Adding a media article on the Brighton & Hove 20mph ... ... eed_limit/

Some useful and informative figures from ROSPA on Inappropriate Speed : ... speed.aspx
However their quote ". For children, the risk of accidents is higher
in faster traffic environments because their eyes are not developed enough yet to be able to
judge speeds over 20mph." with reference :
ROSPA wrote:
6. Wang, J., Poulter, D. R. and Purcell, C. (2011), Reduced Sensitivity to Visual Looming Inflates the
Risk Posed by Speeding Vehicles When Children Try to Cross the Road,
Psychological Science, 22, 4,429–434. - and earlier press release here: “Traffic
at 30 mph is too fast for children’s visual abilities, scientists reveal, University Press Release” www.

A simplified way of phrasing it. I am also disturbed at some of the references as they are Campaign groups using their own surveys to promote their aims than any science and fact. The fact that ROSPA are promoting this article is extremely poor and will make me look much more closely at anything they state in the future - sadly state.

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