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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 18:14 
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In Germany a newly-licensed 18-year-old can legally drive at 300km/h on public roads. Nobody has a problem with this. So why is Germany's per capita road toll lower than Victoria's?

Victoria's road safety mantra is "speed kills". If this were true in isolation, clearly there would be no drivers left on German roads.

Germany and other EU countries have been able to steadily reduce their road tolls, not by draconian and absurd speed limit tolerances, but by concentrating on the real reasons for road deaths.

Why is "hoon" driving not an issue in Europe, why is road rage rare?

Because European drivers are taught to be courteous and competent. Victorian drivers, however, are often aggressive and unskilled. The state government's latest official campaign labelling people misbehaving on the roads as "d***heads" will draw derision from the young. (Is it then fair to call a police officer a "d***head" if he is unnecessarily rude to you?)

Jeremy Clarkson of the British motoring television show Top Gear recently caused an outrage while in Australia when he declared speed does not necessarily kill. The trebling of speed cameras in the UK has demonstrably failed to reduce the road toll compared with most other European countries.

British Formula One driver Lewis Hamilton was rightly condemned for his childish burnout while leaving the Albert Park track before the Australian Grand Prix last week. But Australia's F1 racer Mark Webber was lambasted for calling Australia a "nanny state" with too many speeding and parking rules - and a popular newspaper opinion poll revealed 85 per cent of Victorians agreed with him.

Even an NBA basketballer, car-mad Australian Andrew Bogut, on Tuesday offered to help introduce facilities where young drivers can be trained in proper car control. Victorian Premier John Brumby was ambivalent about the suggestion. Teaching young drivers how to control cars before they are given licences is costly. Sending them out without proper knowledge of driving techniques or extensive testing, then fining them for exceeding the speed limit by more than 3km, is far more cost-effective.

Speeding fines bring hundreds of millions of dollars into the state's coffers but a lack of intensive driver training leaves young drivers clueless and vulnerable when they venture onto the roads, armed with little more than knowing how to park and read speed signs.

There are clear statistics to back up the proposition that Victoria and other Australian states are squandering chances to save lives by their obsession with reaping revenue. According to the federal government's International Road Safety Comparisons 2007 report, Australia ranked 14th in road deaths with 7.6 per 100,000 population among a list of OECD nations. Germany, with Porsches and Lamborghinis flying down autobahns at three times the Australian speed limit, ranked ninth with six deaths per 100,000. Moreover, in the years 2004-07 Germany's figures fell steadily from 7.1 to 6.0. In the same period.

Australia, despite its road blitzes and crackdowns, remained virtually static, moving from 6.9 in 2004 to 6.4 in 2007. While NSW experienced an increase of 85 deaths for a total of 459 last year, Victoria recorded its lowest ever road toll, with 295 fatalities, compared to 1061 in 1971.

Victoria's deputy police commissioner Ken Lay puts the drastic reduction down to seat belts, random breath tests and blitzes on speed, including mobile speed cameras. "We know that they work and we know that they save lives," Mr Lay has said. But Mr Lay also told us this week as he announced an Easter speed blitz after deaths in the state reached 80, 11 more than for the same time last year, the state was in for its "worst road toll in five years".

In February 2008, the German national newsagency DPA reported that the number of road deaths in Germany fell to 4970 in 2007 - the lowest since figures were first kept in 1953. But Germany's major motoring organisation, the ADAC, attributed the fall not to motorists speeding less but to improved car safety figures, better roads and improved driving instruction. "Improved driving instruction" does not exist in Victoria. A learner driver here is required to log 120 hours in a car alongside a fully licensed driver, 20 at night. But a VicRoads spokesperson admitted that to all intents and purposes a learner could do endless laps of a freeway until the required hours were logged.

Further, you do not even have to prove that you have logged any miles at all, it seems, as long as you get through the licence test. There is also no advanced driver eduction - drivers gradually move up to drive in busier traffic and are taught basics such as safely changing lanes, using indicators etc. It's a little different in Europe. In Finland, for example, part of the licence test requires a driver to complete three full days on a wet skid pan, leaning how to actually keep a car under control.

Britain has proved that speed cameras do not work. Two years ago the Daily Mail newspaper reported that roadside cameras had trebled in six years while mobile speed traps across the country increased 14-fold. Britain had the highest number of speed cameras in Europe, yet between 2001 and 2005 road deaths declined just seven per cent compared to a 35 per cent drop in France and a 25 per cent drop in Sweden and the Netherlands.

In Australia, nothing will change as long as the states are seduced by revenue from trivial offences and ignores the real issues. The buck for this in Victoria should stop with the state government. Unfortunately far too many bucks stop with the government, all for the wrong reasons, when it comes to road safety.

Source: AAP News Limited.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 23:54 
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And the same can be said about New Zealand as well. NZ government usually takes on road safety ideas from Victoria, which is sad.
If Victoria is doing it, NZ will soon follow.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:54 
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A very interesting article.

I am a non-driver. An eyesight issue, I gave up driving some years ago as a result of having a large chunk of the back of my right eye floaing around all the time.

However, I can see well enough to notice the following: Many drivers do NOT keep their eyes on the road, any longer.

They keep glancing down at the speedo, flicking their eyes from side to side in a near-constant series of moves to watch out for speed signs, fixed camera signs, fixed cameras, mobile camera signs and mobile camera vans.

No wonder road safety is worse. They have no time to watch out for road hazzards.

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It is all too sad to watch some in society become so mis-guided that they follow a system blindly and when told to question it just dig their feet in deeper.
Why do people do that ? Why do they not properly question if what they believe in is so good why can it not stand scrutiny ? Why can they not answer direct questions and why does their system not work.

Does their pride prevent questioning their 'belief' as if it is a religion?
Are they too scarred or embarrassed to dare to not 'believe' as the consequences are too horrid to bare ?

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Speed management is one of the four major road safety placebos being fed to the Australian public. How can a placebo be a panacea?

Governments and those notionally responsible for road safety don't want to tackle the elephant in the room; which is one of attitude assessment and licencing. In Australia, if one's licence is suspended for a period, it (the right to renew if necessary) is automatically returned at the end of "penalty" period. There is no assessment of psychological fitness to drive; not even for the worst, repeat offenders. Nor is there even a cursory driver attitude assessment of new drivers.

A while ago, I proposed a scheme of driver "training" (and evaluation) by Certified Driving Instructors (http://bernd.felsche.org/SENSE/Certified_Instructors.html) in several discussion fora. This places the focus on driver attitude training and continuous assessment by professional driving instructors who accept responsibility for the behaviour of their graduates.

Such a scheme will, of necessity, increase the cost of driver training ... historically, it's free because idiots are teaching each other bad habits. The testing of new drivers is approximately indistinguishable from a rubber stamp. The old approach to driver training was appropriate when traffic density was about 20% of what it is today.

The carrot for new drivers to spend the dough for the certified driving instruction would be that they are no longer lumbered with being a probationary driver; or as some would appreciate it; "learn to drive if you don't first kill yourself". Once they pass, the are fully-qualified drivers. And the instructors who affirmed that they had an appropriate attitude and sufficient skills are on "probation".

If one is unfortunate enough to be driving in e.g. the metropolitan area of Perth, Western Australia; one can see the fruits of poor driver training and lack of psychological fitness assessment. e.g. Merging on the freeway (motorway) is impossible because 98% (it seems) of those on the road don't have a clue how to do it or simply don't care. Many tailgate more closely than they can park. The youngest drivers behave like they're in a video game; perhaps not realizing that there's no "RESTART" button in life.


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