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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 09:28 
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Motorists are being driven round the twist by a set of wiggly white lines in the middle of a road.

The meandering markings are meant to be part of a new ‘traffic-calming’ scheme through the village of Arnprior in Scotland.

They match up with red indentations that have been painted at the roadside to slow vehicles down.

But some drivers say they look like the work of a drunk - and an opposition councillor claimed they cost 50 per cent more than conventional straight lines.

If drivers do actually end up following the lines rather than pursuing a straight course, surely it may distract them from paying attention to other hazards :scratchchin:

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 14:55 
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What's the betting that 5 years from now, it'll be quietly dropped and the next time it comes up for repainting, they'll be straight again? Still, at least the center line isn't solid, so if your car IS wide enough, crossing it won't be a problem.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 17:20 
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More money wasted by a council without the foggiest idea of what road safety is.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 01:58 
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More money wasted by a council without the foggiest idea of what road safety is.
I can't imagine that for one second that they are legal!
What madness! And why the little red bits anyway ?!
I cannot see how anyone will take this seriously or even pay any attention to it and just drive in a straight line.
I agree people paying attention to this may potentially miss vital developing hazard clues! :(

If this Council think that this was a good idea then they are unfit to rule and need to be removed from office.

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I'm just waiting for someone on the Council to propose creating a cycle lane along the side of it - "a la Ambleside" (i.e. by just painting one on there without actually widening the road)! I wonder If the cycle lane markings will have to be widgly too? THAT should create some carnage! (which could subsequently be mitigated be reducing the sped limit further, I suppose...) :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 22:12 
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Looks like it was created for Comic Relief, though when it comes to wiggly cycle lanes take a look at this one in Bromley. http://goo.gl/maps/5VQc7

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I recall seeing a TV program about bad positioned, down right awful and stupid road signage and road furnishings. It was mad what they showed! Hard to belief that some planner had actually had permission to install and that others had actually carried out the work without any form of suggestion back up the ladder that the 'work' was plain wrong!

The program pointed out that in many cases part time planners were to blame but they had precious little time and resources to fully apraise the project never mind check all the details, but to just solve a 'problem'.
It would explain what is going wrong in many towns and cities all over the Country. :(

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Yes, that's fair. It's a bit like social workers getting blamed when they fail to spot these horrendous cases of child abuse. I don't know what town planners typically get paid, but I'm guessing it's not that much, and they'll be bound by more red tape than you can shake a stick at. In Toltec's photo, it's hard to imagine that anyone with two brain cells to rub together, who would have thought it was a good idea, but I bet that their hands will have been tied because there will have been some ruling on minimum pavement width for pedestrians, some guideline on how far the cycle lane had to be from the kerb, and no money to move the lamp posts. I think that very often these poor unfortunates end up having to do the "least awful" thing and then just sit back and wait for the brickbats to come flooding in.

There may well also be (I know there is in other public sector areas) a culture that not only penalises thinking out of the box but actually rewards mediocrity. You get situations where you can't be sacked, disciplined, or in any way chastised for "sticking to the guidelines" (however ludicrous the outcome) but you end up absolutely on your own if you exercise enough judgment to realise that two guidelines are going to conflict and you'll end up with a poor result. So when you take the decision to ignore one of them, it will be "all your fault" the day someone gets killed (even though it delivered a better solution and the death was nothing directly to do with the decision you took)!


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I would guess that the person who signed that off ( based on what my mate used to earn as a medium cog in highways), on on excess of £60K...enough to be able to realise that someone wiggling about on a road in a car, is either drunk or as stupid as the guy who dreamt it up or signed it off.

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Streetview shows it as previously having red-painted central hatchings of varying widths.

To be honest, it doesn't remotely have the level of development to justify a 30 anyway.

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graball wrote:
I would guess that the person who signed that off ( based on what my mate used to earn as a medium cog in highways), on on excess of £60K...enough to be able to realise that someone wiggling about on a road in a car, is either drunk or as stupid as the guy who dreamt it up or signed it off.


Blimey!!! OK, I take it all back! I thought they weren't very well paid!


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If drivers do actually end up following the lines


Nobody round here follows any lines anywhere, if it can be driven across without danger of losing suspension components then it's ignored, so I don't see it working.


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