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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:21 
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City takes top 3 speeding roads in county
By Hugh Morris Thursday, July 21, 2011 - 10:07 AM

IF YOU don’t want to get caught speeding, stay out of Cambridge city.

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The top three roads in the county for the number of people caught speeding last year are all in Cambridge and amount to a staggering 4,644 drivers.

Victoria Avenue, which runs alongside Midsummer Common, leads the way with 1,850 people clocked speeding between April 2010 and April this year, followed closely by Barnwell Road to the east of the city with 1,542 people caught, then the long Hills Road with 1,252 drivers.
Despite 53 fixed cameras and two mobile enforcement units across Cambridgeshire, the city still notched up the most fines for speeding this year.

Last year, too, Cambridge roads Elizabeth Way, Milton Road and Victoria Avenue were the top three in the county where the most number of drivers were clocked by speed cameras.

Clinton Hale is the manager of the county’s Safety Camera Unit. He said: “It is more about the driver not being able to read the road.
“If the road is straight and wide they think they can just blast down it. The environment could suggest to the driver the speed limit is higher than 30.
“They might have been driving for 50 years and forgotten how to read a road.”
He said, because of this, most speeding offences are simple mistakes.
For example, Barnwell Road used to have a 40mph limit but is now 30mph which may be a reason behind so many offences.
Mr Hale said people might use Barnwell Road as a ‘rat run’ to escape some of the traffic of Cambridge’s ring road.

The number of people caught speeding across the county has risen 12.1 per cent from 2009-10 to 33,054 which gives a bleak picture of offences across the county.
“We want to bring people’s speed down - we can’t stop collisions and injuries but we can stop people being killed if they drive slower,” said Mr Hale.
He said continuous education must be provided to make sure drivers are aware of the consequences of speeding. That was one of the reasons why drivers were now being given the option of a fine or going on a speed awareness course.
“There may well be technical advancements in the future which will slow cars down ahead of cameras but what it comes down to is people realising that a few miles per hour could save a child’s life,” he said.

Educating drivers is a much-used method when it comes to speeding but Mr Hale lamented people still do not see speeding as a real crime.

Around the county volunteer Speedwatches are being set up to prevent speeding on individual streets. Brunswick and North Kite residents’ association was the first in Cambridge.

Chairman John Lawton said: “We have seen rather too many drivers who seem to be unaware that the speed limit is 20mph not 30mph in this road.”

Mr Lawton said he is in contact with other residents’ associations in the city with a view to rolling out Community Speedwatch to other areas of Cambridge.
Mr hale needs to understand road observation does allow motorists to judge appropriate speed for conditions and that speed limits should indicate a predictability of hazard density.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:38 
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Clinton Hale is the manager of the county’s Safety Camera Unit. He said: “It is more about the driver not being able to read the road.
“If the road is straight and wide they think they can just blast down it. The environment could suggest to the driver the speed limit is higher than 30.
“They might have been driving for 50 years and forgotten how to read a road.”
He said, because of this, most speeding offences are simple mistakes.
For example, Barnwell Road used to have a 40mph limit but is now 30mph which may be a reason behind so many offences.

Apart from this being a bit poorly worded, it encapsulates the whole problem.

Drivers have not "forgotten how to read the road". They are reading it just fine and adjusting their spped to the hazard density. If the environment suggests a safe speed is higher than the politically set limit, then it is the limit that is wrong and not the driver.

What he is saying is that drivers didn't read the signs and this is the "simple mistake". However, by his own admisssion, the speed limit has been reduced - but he doesn't say why.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 17:27 
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What he actually means to say is,

"the authorities who set the speed limits, have FORGOTTEN, that drivers know how to read the road and drive at a speed that is safe and justifiable and FORGOTTEN why road speed limits were always set around the 85percentile speed or there about".

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“If the road is straight and wide they think they can just blast down it. The environment could suggest to the driver the speed limit is higher than 30.
“They might have been driving for 50 years and forgotten how to read a road.”



About as likely as a man from mars, winning the lootery in UK tonight.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:37 
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graball wrote:
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“If the road is straight and wide they think they can just blast down it. The environment could suggest to the driver the speed limit is higher than 30.
“They might have been driving for 50 years and forgotten how to read a road.”



About as likely as a man from mars, winning the lootery in UK tonight.


I'd imagine that Cambridge SCP have no need of lottery tickets by the sounds of it. They must be raking it in. It's a winning formula. Pick a road that is wide and straight and that you know suggests (and indeed, depending on conditions, probably is) good for more than 30mph or one that would indicate that the speed limit is set at above 30mph and stick a camera there.


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