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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 03:25 
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Speeding test case abandoned by Crown after campaigner exposes potential loophole
27 Jun 2011

A test case brought by campaigner Robbie the Pict challenging the validity of police speed capture devices has been deserted by the Crown after they were unable to produce a copy of the document authorising the use of the device in question.

The case, which had been pursued by the Crown for eight years and was scheduled to be heard at Fort William tomorrow, was dramatically dropped “after careful consideration” on Saturday via email.

Now, Robbie the Pict is considering raising an action to cover his court costs after eight years of protracted litigation.

In his case, Robbie had emailed district Procurator Fiscal Alison Wyllie to obtain the police officer’s competency certificate which would have demonstrated that the WPC who operated the radar device was suitably trained to do so, together with an evidential copy of the statutory approval authorising that device to be used to secure prosecutions as required by the legislation.
“48 hours later, by email on a Saturday, the case is deserted,” Robbie told The Firm.
“All I'm doing in all cases is pulling up the civil servants for not properly raising legislative instruments and the Secretaries of State for not signing them off properly. They've been getting off with it for years and are now grumpy about being pulled up for not doing their job,” he said.
“I have several examples of subordinate instruments being signed by 'One of Her Majesty's Principal Secretaries of State' when it suits them. I presented 14 examples at Portree and the Court just glazed over. The Crown had to resort to claiming that such legal instruments, which primary legislation authorises a Cabinet Minister only to raise, are not actually legislation - only departmental decisions, which any underling can effect and enjoy the protection of war-time Emergency Powers and the Carltona case of 1942/3 which became the 'authority' for indulging such practice.
“However making particular administrative decisions in a particular case is not making the legislation which will apply to a multiplicity of cases - in the case of cameras, speed-guns, motorways and toll roads throughout the UK."

Robbie’s argument is based on the contention that the enabling subordinate legislation is fatally flawed. The position will now not be established in court following the Crown’s abandonment of proceedings.

Robbie has campaigned for a number of years against the use of speed devices that he argues have been adopted and used on an ad hoc basis, bypassing the prescribed statutorily required procedure.

If the position is successfully argued, many thousands of speeding conviction charges could be overturned and the associated inflated insurance penalties rendered liable to be claimed back by drivers in civil damages.
Absolutely excellent. :clap: What a shame the Court chickened out !

Edited to add - now reported in the Daily Record here too.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 07:51 
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The only possible interpretation you can really put on this (after 8 years of consideration) is that the Crown lawyers realised that, based on the law, they would lose, did not want to set a precedent which would fatally undermine the whole system and could not exert enough pressure on the judged to bend the rules.

Unfortunately "not tested in court" means that the status quo of slack administration of the law remains.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:05 
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malcolmw wrote:
Unfortunately "not tested in court" means that the status quo of slack administration of the law remains.


if memory serves me right this same appeal was thrown out of the High Court in 2009 so irelevant in Englan, Wales and Northern Ireland

costs is thsi the same defendant who every time, has challenged the sysytem to the highest level and when found guilty recieves the minimum fine due to being out of work with no substative income

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:18 
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So, clearly, you agree with me that fines should not be related to a person's income.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:01 
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malcolmw wrote:
So, clearly, you agree with me that fines should not be related to a person's income.


do i thanks for that,

if we are talking a speeding fine, then everyone is offered the £60, how the want to play ball is then up to them.

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It is somewhat surprising that the case was withdrawn because there are no requirements that dictate a speed measuring device be Home Office Type Approved before it is used to provide evidence for an offence of speeding.
There is such a requirement if the crown wish to provide that evidence by way of a section 20 RTOA certificate and then have the evidence and certificate admissible by the court. As soon as the defendant rejects that s20 certificate method of admissibility and requests a witness the Statutory Instruments and legislation RtP bleats on about are redundant.
It appears mistakes have been made on both sides, RtP in insisting that the process is flawed and the crown in thinking he knew what he was on about then relenting. Perhaps someone should have taken some advice.


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