Safe Speed Forums

The campaign for genuine road safety
It is currently Mon Oct 27, 2025 10:50

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 21:57 
Offline
User
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 21:41
Posts: 3608
Location: North West
This story appears in all regional and tabloid press.

Woman allegedly sent text messages before colliding with a broken down car.

She killed another young lady. She had a broken arm. Despite spinning into a lorry.

She (aged 24 years) was banned for three years and jailed for 21 months for killing a 21 year old. She denied using the phone at point of impact but accepted sending text messages whilst driving.


The bereaved family .. far from impressed here.

I happen to agree on this one,. TEXTING

:censored: FFS :banghead:


No LENIENT .. absurdly so..


Especially when you take into account the sentence imposed on one woman who may or may not have been texting when she went through a traffic signal of green . but killed a cyclist who ignored a red light.

Now .. I do not think I AM wrong on this one.

I do not .. and never would condone using hand held phone to chat. I certainly would never contemplate sending a text when fully "at ease and at one peace" wiht my harem of cars /..


But somehow I think a jail term of 4 years when colliding with another who ignored the law seems very OTT in harshness when compared with one who texted at 70 mph and hit a stationary car as a result.. killing another young lady// but gets a derisory sentence by comparison of danger and legality of each party involved.


Cyclists. do NOT try to misinterpret. Both me .and Wildy and the geared up one condemned that texting woman at the time. We did comment on the legality of that cyclist at the time. Two wrongs can never ever make a right. All of us have a responsibility to each other out there.

But I am trying to place into context . as to who was the greater danger here.

I am saying in reality that this woman has received too light a sentence.

Her ban should start on her release. It should only be reduced if she satisfies an eaxminer of IG's calibre that she is able to drive in redeemed COAST course input .. in all reality. (and whilst the geared up guy appears to be a cuddly squishy doughnut.. he has a rock hard centre :yikes: )
Kid you not. I do not like him as a passenger. He nit picks.

Like him .. love him as a rock to depend on though. As a pal.. :bow: to me.

As crtique on my driving. he notices far too much :yikes: for my comfort and ego at times. :popcorn:

But I do disagree with the sentence. Put into context with other cases.. she got off too lightly really .

I will never ever understand the slavery to phone.

I agree 100% with my wife.

We do use handy phones. We never ever use if driving EVER.

The gadget records a message or tells us of a missed call.

We can reply accordingly on that basis. Our lives do not revolve around mobile phones . nor internet chatrooms. :wink:

We enjoy a real life . a family life. with REALITY and not some non-life as equated with anorak wearers who eat mushy peas and look like the Spitting Image of John Major as PM in the 90s :wink:

I am saying that our lives relax in our home and professions. We donate some time to this forum and the PH forum. We use the smilies.

That smilie use gets read by pals/family. They pay up for what they think fair abuse.. and fine us posters for using for the sake of it.


It means our time on line blends in with the ethic of our families. that we do not harm folk knowingly. do not hurt folk knowingly and seek always to help others in need.

But some do indeed abuse us. No matter. Their loss .. their stupidity. But their charity defence .. FUNDED by us. :popcorn: And we donate to BRAKE and the CTC too. .. so we keep it all fair :wink:


So think hard before replying on any site with abuse to Swiss mob. Not illegal . .but fair minded.

_________________
If you want to get to heaven - you have to raise a little hell!

Smilies are contagious
They are just like the flu
We use our smilies on YOU today
Now Good Causes are smiling too!

KEEP SMILING
It makes folk wonder just what you REALLY got up to last night!

Smily to penny.. penny to pound
safespeed prospers-smiles all round! !

But the real message? SMILE.. GO ON ! DO IT! and the world will smile with you!
Enjoy life! You only have the one bite at it.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 01:12 
Offline
Friend of Safe Speed
Friend of Safe Speed
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:16
Posts: 7986
Location: Moved to London
Mad Moggie wrote:
She denied using the phone at point of impact .....

That's even more worrying than admitting being distracted!

_________________
Views expressed are personal opinions and are not necessarily shared by the Safe Speed campaign


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 15:41 
Offline
Member
Member

Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:30
Posts: 2053
Location: South Wales (Roving all UK)
If texting caused the crash then throw the book.

if it didn't then 3 ponts and a fine.

Lets get back to a bit of cause and effect here.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 09:58 
Offline
User
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 21:41
Posts: 3608
Location: North West
civil engineer wrote:
If texting caused the crash then throw the book.

if it didn't then 3 ponts and a fine.

Lets get back to a bit of cause and effect here.



But that's the problem.. Was she texting or reading the text? As in the red light jumping cyclist and the allegedly texting driver case (also jailed for 4 years ) - "texting" seems to mean reading the text as well as typing the text. Either way - still stupid to do when driving .. in my opinion and that of my wife's.

As for the sentence? I think the latter one was over harsh as the other party also contributed to outcome by breaking the law as well.


But then perhaps it comes down to the level of carelessness and consequence of that alleged act of carelessness. To me there is a deliberateness in using ahand held phone to either read or compose a text which distinguishes from careless error. This case is sort of related to the u-turning lady one in terms of punishment setting.

:popcorn:

_________________
If you want to get to heaven - you have to raise a little hell!

Smilies are contagious
They are just like the flu
We use our smilies on YOU today
Now Good Causes are smiling too!

KEEP SMILING
It makes folk wonder just what you REALLY got up to last night!

Smily to penny.. penny to pound
safespeed prospers-smiles all round! !

But the real message? SMILE.. GO ON ! DO IT! and the world will smile with you!
Enjoy life! You only have the one bite at it.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 13:30 
Offline
Member
Member

Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:30
Posts: 2053
Location: South Wales (Roving all UK)
is it a problem?

why don't we start by checking the time that texts were sent/recieved in relation to the impact time?


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 21 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You can post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
[ Time : 0.030s | 11 Queries | GZIP : Off ]