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HOW 15M DRIVERS ARE BAFFLED BY ROAD SIGNS

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NEARLY half Britain’s drivers don’t understand basic road signs from the Highway Code.

Around 47 per cent of motorists, equivalent to 15.5million road users, admit they often do not have a clue what some signs mean.

While the confusion is at best frustrating, it could also mean that drivers are putting themselves and other road users at risk.

The most misunderstood sign – of which 67 per cent were unsure – warns drivers of a “no through road” which means millions are being caught out by dead ends.

But only a third of people recognised the sign warning of two-way traffic crossing a one-way road, which could potentially be very dangerous.

And a further third did not even recognise a “no motor vehicles” sign.

The poll of 2,500 drivers by Vauxhall found that 65 per cent believe road signs need to be updated for modern road users to make them easier to understand.

A spokesman for the Association of British Drivers said: “We need a sensible, structured approach which gets back to informing drivers and making them responsible for their actions instead of legislating our way through road safety with a proliferation of often confusing and misleading signs.

“There are far too many signs on the roads which, at worst, leads to people simply ignoring them. That’s a huge problem.

“Signs should be simple and used where necessary and where essential. I’m all for road signs that give useful information but some are just too much and we have become almost immune to them.

“Signs have gone from informing drivers to bullying them and that’s absolutely wrong.

“There are too many road signs, they’re too confusing and some are just spurious.”

Signs indicating nearby cashpoints, wi-fi hotspots and drive-thru takeaways would all be useful additions to the Highway Code, the survey found.

And a host of new warning signs pointing out the risk of urban foxes and skateboarders would also help drivers.

Some other signs – like the “children crossing” sign – should be updated to represent fashion by picturing a boy wearing a “hoodie,” drivers said.

But, most surprisingly, modern motorists want to be reminded to be green, with new signs to advise them to turn off engines while stationary.

They also want to know where the nearest healthy-eating outlet is.

Vauxhall spokesman Simon Ewart said: “UK motorists love to drive, but our research shows that there is a need to contemporise the road landscape to mirror the needs of modern motorists. 

“We are all more aware of green issues – a simple reminder to turn the engine off when waiting has to be a good thing.

“We’ve all been on wild goosechases looking for cash machines – a new road sign could save endless hours of searching the streets.”

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“We’ve all been on wild goosechases looking for cash machines – a new road sign could save endless hours of searching the streets.”


Staveley, where my place of work is located used to have three banks, but now has NONE - although the private house where one used to be located has wording above the windows saying it is a bank!

We also have NO CASHPOINTS - the nearest would be Windermere, about 4 miles away, or Kendal - a little closer but harder to park in.
Should we have signs saying "NO CASH POINTS" (which might be misunderstood as a protest movement!) or "NEAREST CASH POINT 4 MILES" along with detailed instructions on where to park?

A better idea would be to put signs up saying "Get out and walk to the cash point, and don't stick two wheels on the pavement and hold up traffic because you are too lazy to walk 20 yards!" ......or is it just me that finds this annoying?

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Ernest Marsh wrote:
A better idea would be to put signs up saying "Get out and walk to the cash point, and don't stick two wheels on the pavement and hold up traffic because you are too lazy to walk 20 yards!" ......or is it just me that finds this annoying?


I know what you mean. We have some local shops, there is off road car parking in front of the shops and also a car park at the back of the shops. Quite often you are held up by motorist queued up and waiting on the main road to get onto the car park at the front, while the car park at the back is empty. And all for the sake of saving a few extra metres of walking.

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The most misunderstood sign – of which 67 per cent were unsure – warns drivers of a “no through road” which means millions are being caught out by dead ends.


Case of crying wolf, in a lot of cases . Seeing this a lot now, signs to a village "LITTLE UPSTART(village only)" --- when in fact it is possible to drive through the village - but then is this by the NIMBY brigade ??

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They also want to know where the nearest healthy-eating outlet is.


Certain fast food chains might complain that they've been missed out.
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A spokesman for the Association of British Drivers said: “We need a sensible, structured approach which gets back to informing drivers and making them responsible for their actions instead of legislating our way through road safety with a proliferation of often confusing and misleading signs.


Very possibly an easy task, but then someone decided that roadsigns should be standardised throughout the EEC, and we all know what that means :shock:

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Around 47 per cent of motorists, equivalent to 15.5million road users, admit they often do not have a clue what some signs mean.


I should think that almost 100% of people don't recognise some signs. My brother recently took the theory part of his bike test and asked to identify a sign that wasn't even in the highway code.


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road signs should only be to inform road users and/or to warn them or to command. also directions to places and parking. all other signs are superfluous. brown signs giving directions to attractions should be removed and left to the driver/rider to read a bloody map. then again, the police don't seem to give a rats if you're in a crash because some idiot disobeyed a sign, box junctions are a good example but should be policed much more rigorously. if they ignore the signs and still drive along the green tarmac (bus lane) what hope is there?


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And a host of new warning signs pointing out the risk of urban foxes


A sign with an overturned bin or torn black sack maybe?

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Some other signs – like the “children crossing” sign – should be updated to represent fashion by picturing a boy wearing a “hoodie,” drivers said.


:rotfl:

How about a beware of the ASBO sign.

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covmike wrote:
road signs should only be to inform road users and/or to warn them or to command. also directions to places and parking. all other signs are superfluous. brown signs giving directions to attractions should be removed and left to the driver/rider to read a bloody map. then again, the police don't seem to give a rats if you're in a crash because some idiot disobeyed a sign, box junctions are a good example but should be policed much more rigorously. if they ignore the signs and still drive along the green tarmac (bus lane) what hope is there?


Aren't those brown attraction signs paid for by the attraction? But agreed, take them down.

Nobody seems to know what a box junction is used for anymore. Hey I know, why not use cameras to police them :wink:

Bus lane colours vary from town to town. :roll:

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Bus lane colours vary from town to town. :roll:

and what a debacle it was in WM. a couple of towns/cities tried to jump the gun and did their bus lanes whatever colour they liked, except they were different from each other, then came the glorious day when the WM decided on a single colour to avoid confusion and those "amber gamblers" had the wrong colour. just like all those other councils that are rushing to fit new crash barriers before the new standard for motorcyclist friendly barriers are made a requirement, just to save a few quid. :P


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“Signs should be simple and used where necessary and where essential. I’m all for road signs that give useful information but some are just too much and we have become almost immune to them.

How simple can they get?
Do we really need a sign telling us there is a sign up ahead that we must obey?
Are drivers today so darned thick as not to know what a red circled 30 on a white background means?...Obviously so considering the amount that get caught out exceeding 30mph...Perhaps we need signs in Braille? :lol:


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There is currently a mentality in authorities from local councils to Central Government, to put up signs, as a tangible way of showing they are "doing" something!

Witness the current debate over "NO SMOKING" signs in premises where smoking will be illegal.

JT might correct me, but I am supposed to put up a sign in MY shop to say MY customers are forbidden to smoke.
I can be fined for not displaying the sign - yet I am a non smoker, and NOBODY has ever smoked in my shop, law or no law, so why should I display a sign?
How come I dont have to display a sign saying "NO SHOPLIFTING" or "NO LEWD BEHAVIOUR"?
I might just put one up... along with "NO DRUG TAKING, NO FIREARMS, NO CHILD or ANIMAL ABUSE, and DEFINITELY NO SMOKING!"

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Are drivers today so darned thick as not to know what a red circled 30 on a white background means?...Obviously so considering the amount that get caught out exceeding 30mph...


Alternatively...

Are drivers today so darned thick as not to know what a red circled 40/50/60 on a white background means?...Obviously so considering the amount that bimble along at exactly 30/40/50... :wink:

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Are drivers today so darned thick as not to know what a red circled 40/50/60 on a white background means?...Obviously so considering the amount that bimble along at exactly 30/40/50... :wink:

are they paranoid or they they deliberately out to annoy covmike :lol:


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Have possibly mentioned this before, but possibly will strike a chord with ex service personnel -

Commented to daughter and hubby on sign on their army housing estate "Beware of children" - daughters comment was " to protect public straying into the estate " :lol:

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I have issues with the 'No smoking sign' too

If it's illegal then.....it's illegal!

Maybe you should put up a sign saying 'Don't do Illegal things'


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I have issues with the 'No smoking sign' too

If it's illegal then.....it's illegal!

Maybe you should put up a sign saying 'Don't do Illegal things'


Nice little revenue earner for the council if you do not have the sign. Or am I just being cynical?

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