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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:06 
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/6618255.stm

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More than 50 police officers were fined for speeding in the Avon and Somerset force area last year while not on an emergency call.
Figures obtained through the Freedom of Information Act show police vehicles triggered a speed camera 640 times.

In almost nine cases out of ten, the penalty was cancelled, but officers were fined in the remaining cases.

The charity Road Peace, which supports families of crash victims, condemned the figures as "horrifying".

Spokeswoman Rita Taylor said: "These officers were fined - they were found to be breaking the law.

"We feel the police are there to uphold the law, they must be shown they cannot break the law."

In a statement, the force said some of the speed camera activations could have been caused by members of other constabularies passing through the area.

But it said: "The high number of Notices of Intended Prosecution in Avon and Somerset Constabulary may relate to the fact we use strobe lights rather than revolving blue lights which are not always picked up by the safety cameras.

"We would stress that we are an open and accountable force and will prosecute officers when they are unable to demonstrate their actions were for a lawful policing purpose.

"If officers are prosecuted they can be put through a refresher course on the force's driver training programme."

The statement added that the vast majority of police drivers were highly skilled and operated within the law.

It said the figures must be put into context, as officers responded to nearly 50,000 call-outs last year.

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In almost nine cases out of ten, the penalty was cancelled, but officers were fined in the remaining cases.


Isn't that the newsworthy piece of information?

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:06 
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police vehicles triggered a speed camera 640 times.

It said the figures must be put into context, as officers responded to nearly 50,000 call-outs last year.


It may be stretching it a bit to assume that the speed limit is always exceeded on a 'call-out' however given that assumption it would seem that the cameras only caught a very small number of police vehicles exceeding the speed limit.

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a) Cameras are not very good at catching speeding vehicles

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b) Cameras in A&S are sited where even Police drivers on a shout would drop below the trigger speed.


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The high number of Notices of Intended Prosecution in Avon and Somerset Constabulary may relate to the fact we use strobe lights rather than revolving blue lights which are not always picked up by the safety cameras.


I assume this is on visual examination of the picture rather than some automatic system?

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 17:34 
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toltec wrote:
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a) Cameras are not very good at catching speeding vehicles

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b) Cameras in A&S are sited where even Police drivers on a shout would drop below the trigger speed.


wasn't there a thing a while ago about ambulance drivers slowing down for cameras, cos they were spending too long filling out paperwork to prove they were on a call at the time, with the onus being on them to prove it each and every time or face prosecution?

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hairyben wrote:
toltec wrote:
So-
a) Cameras are not very good at catching speeding vehicles

or

b) Cameras in A&S are sited where even Police drivers on a shout would drop below the trigger speed.


wasn't there a thing a while ago about ambulance drivers slowing down for cameras, cos they were spending too long filling out paperwork to prove they were on a call at the time, with the onus being on them to prove it each and every time or face prosecution?


In Lancashire they fitted a non flashing blue light to the back of all ambulances as they had had to employ somebody to match the NIPs against call logs to try and work out what offences were commited whilst on a call out.


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