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Nice to see someone getting the picture! Add ID cards to that and they'll know "who" and "where" you are. I also suspect that with all the induction loop sensors that have been fitted in the UK roads, they'll be used to tell which roads you have used for your journey from A to B (road pricing). Either that or it's mass speed enforcement, timing you from one loop to the next. They are definately there for a reason.

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Other than for traffic lights, I thought the loops were basically traffic counters, like the temporary strips used on smaller roads. Anonymous, with at best the ability to tell the difference between "car" and "lorry". Yes they can record speed but with no great accuracy.
Its the RFID readers you want to worry about. ID cards have RFID tags in, right? I believe there are already some combined spy camera/RFID reader devices in use.

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Andrew.

Did you see the episode of the christmas lectures where he was talking about RFID's?

(They are so small and inexpensive that even things like sweet wrappers, cigarette ends and so on can be given an individaual identity and tracked through the system from manufacturer to final disposal. Of course, those with nothing to hide have nohing to fear!)

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"The road to a police state is paved with public safety legislation"

Truvelos use the loops in the road to measure the vehicle speed.
Trials have finished of number plates with installed rfid. A great success I believe.
I always wondered why the anti-camera-criminal-element (petrol bombs etc) just didn't use a portable drill to drill through the sensors in the road surface.....

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56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing

I did see the Christmas lectures and those RFID tags were amazing. They were only as big as a grain of sugar and so could be in just about anything and you would never know...

(It was quite nice to know that you still need a brain to tell a cat from a dog)

I did not. I've read about them before though. I think the small size does not include the antenna?

They will be good for burglars. Presumably expensive items will be the first to have RFID tags in them. Imagine being able to point an RFID scanner at people's windows and doing an inventory of their house!
Also they will make doing a stock take easier. For anyone who comes in your shop.


They use piezo strips, not loops.


Because there aren't any near me. Mwahaha.

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Andrew.

Thank you for the supportive comments - I appreciate them

It can be hard to know what figures will come up and they often add them on after (as in BBC). As they often attempt to discourage stats, I try to ensure that I slip in several, but not too many ! The time frame that you get is rarely known up front so I try to put across the most important points and then if time allows approach the deeper issues.

I will see if I can find the HGV KSI graph on Paul's computer.

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Just think, when the local authority snoops come to value your house they will be able to value the contents too!

(cross linked database with HMRC to see if you have anything you shouldnt be able to afford etc etc etc)

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"The road to a police state is paved with public safety legislation"

Yeah...
And if expensive items have RFID tags, well here's some future news stories:

Police put RFID scanners on major roads to log any reported stolen items. It will help solve crime.
Database created so that all items scanned are logged even if they have not been reported as stolen and data kept for 7 days. It will help solve crime.
More RFID scanners installed on other roads. It will help solve crime.
Storage upped to 14 days. It will help solve crime.
Storage upped to 28 days. It will help solve crime.
Storage upped to 1 year. It will help solve crime.
Etc.

Also how about... RFID scanners installed on entrances to "sensitive" buildings as knives require RFID tags by law. Criminals remove tags, fishermen and campers arrested for being terrorists.

I'm sure poole council will love to be able to spy on us even more than they already do.

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