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Well if they remove humps and put SPECS cameras on small residential streets, it will make them a paradise for motorcyclists

It will also create another huge incentive for people to drive unregistered vehicles or use false plates.

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I think I'd prefer cameras over the atrocious speed bumps we now have everywhere. It's like a bloody obstacle course in some roads with build outs, chicanes, humps, tables and the like.

I live in a 20 mph zone and have done for over a year.
Oh yes it is the residents who speed, as we are an estate, we also have speed humps.
Most drivers do speed around here.
I know of two accidents on my little estate. One with a stationary vehicle !!
People readily cut corners especially the corner in the picture below:



They also regularly drive on the wrong side of the road and park very close to corners. I get tail gated if another car enters or leaves at the same time as me The corner above has a hedged, and difficult to see round, however it does not stop drivers cutting the corner at speed. Several times myself and my partner have narrowly avoided collisions here. The reason we have avoided collisions is clearly because we approach the corner very slowly. I do not drive around my estate at more than 15 mph, even though it is very quiet I have been by the computer for 45 min and not a car has past the window. The reason is if there is a car you can bet it is being driven dangerously

However weepej I assume you believe this safe, as the road has a 20 mph limit. Wake up and smell the coffee. I live in your little utopian dream, and I do not feel safe driving around it
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You also find this happens when one village screams folk drive too fast through their village. So you go to monitor this and the next vvillage and find.. Village A who did the complaining drive rather fast through village B





Well they are stupid if there are humps there as well. I don't think they would welcome SPECS despite a "survey"



You would have more than one though.. these things can only work in pairs as they calculate the average from cam 1 to cam 2 and from cam 2 r to cam 3 and so on.


Have you not considered asking for PCSO/bobby on bicycles pairing Seems to work OK around here

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I know it's been said before but the people who get caught in these side street (or village) speed traps after residents complain are ... the residents themselves.

My neighbour has 3 small children who attend the village junior school and takes them everyday in her people carrier. The Parish magazine always has parents' complaints about speeding drivers "risking schoolkids lives".

So, they have had the Police out and, yes, my neighbour got a speeding ticket.

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Once again, this is nothing to do with safety or the environment and everything to do with one old man's sick and irrational hatred of cars.

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ree.t's pic also reminds me of another pet hate of mine - at night in roads with humps ( nearly said humped roads - conjures up weird images )--where someone parks on the hump, blocking out the white marker ,and first you notice is bump ( now sits back waiting for lecture on speed in humped areas)-( that's what used to happen in cars in back lanes , so perhaps it's a PC way of telling us that the LA is going to F*** the road system )

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Hi there! Yes I also have beef with the London Congestion Charge zone, however in this instance I am looking at the proposed 20mph Lewisham speed limit.

Is there an official Safe Speed position on this particular issue?

Malcolm

How about ripping the humps out and seeing what happens? there was no study when they put them in so why should they feel the need to replace them with something else.

twenty zones definitely cause more congestion/pollution - simple queuing theory shows that. To prove otherwise, we'd need to see some sort of bunching or stop starting that would be removed by a 20 limit. The speed limit is irrelevant in heavy traffic for the 2-4 hours a day it peaks. When its important is the other 20 hours of the day when traffic can flow more freely.

Even in busy central London traffic flows fine between the hours of 8PM and 6AM. Slow that traffic to 20 and you have a major increase in pollution and journey times.

The legislators always think about the peak times, but never the rest of the day. If I had to do 20 across London at 6am I think I'd fall asleep.