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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 20:28 
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The dreaded budget is coming up.
Apart from losing all inheritance tax loopholes and increasing the basic threshold for house stamp duty from £60K to maybe £90k they are saying motorists are to get bled dry.
Personally I do not think it is possible to feel much dryer than we are already - the Gobi desert is not as dry as the British motorist ! :shock:

So what can we do between now and 6 pm Wednesday to evade as much as possible?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 21:11 
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I moved this topic from "News" to "General Chat" - seemed a better place for it :)

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Hmm... so how do you think they're going to hit the motorist? Yet more tax on petrol? :/

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Who knows? Who really knows what evil this lot might have dreamt up in their gilded new Treasuiry building?

To be sure I will not be travelling to central London again for a while because ..

1. I haven't renewed my free pass through the congestion charge because they appear to be going to charge me £10 for a renewal one minute and not to charge me at all the next. That only breaks even if I travel twice a year - so why bother?

2. If I drive there I will almost certainly get stuffed by some quota driven traffic warden into parking where he says is safe and legal and then turns out not to have been, costing me £60 - again!

3. The Spanish just elected the party that promised to get Spain's troops out of Iraq thus assuaging terrorists so El Quaida are now sure to be targeting Waterloo and Paddington stations. That travel would have cost me £45 in public transport tickets and taxis because I cannot and dare not use the underground system.

Petrol will be going up again, diesel will too and any difference between whatever they did to appease the green lobby 6 years ago will go as well. I would think car tax and vehicle excise duty will go up way above the rate of inflation as well.
Hopefully they will hypertax alcopops - but I shall be restocking my wine cellar tomorrow just in case. Tobacco taxes will go up, as will every stealth tax in the book.


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Here in Tayside fuel has already risen "quietly" by 1-2p litre....


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Yes, it is 79.9p here and on the M1 it was 81.9p.

It is sliding upwards again. By the way, what is the world commodity price of oil doing this week?


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They've already thought of it, 1000 GBP for your car tax (under the guise of pushing drivers towards smaller engined cars and alternative fuels...and the other one has bells on)


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£1000 for the tax disc?
That would cause riots on the streets. It's not fair!


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Yeah, up to 1000 quid (proposed - but let's face it, it'll happen - they're a law unto themselves) - there is some guff about it being on a sliding scale related to emissions levels, however unless u drive a Sinclair C5 your likely to end up in the top band.

We were only joking when we talked about them eventually taxing air weren't we??


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Yes, they most certainly area law unto themselves and have fixed things to remain so -

The battlemap shows that the political playing-field is not level at the moment. Assuming the Liberals are constant on 15%, then Labour wins a majority if it can win 41% of the vote. But the Conservatives would have to win 47% of the vote to have a majority.

http://www.financialcalculus.co.uk/elec ... ntary.html


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What often happens is that they come out with something outrageous like £1000 duty. Everyone gets steamed up, then they announce "only £500". So we all think that we've got off lightly. Actually they've softened us up in advance for something which, if they hit us with straight off, we'd be very unhappy with. I wonder if that's happening here too?


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I'm sure they're working on something sneaky that won't be easily spotted. Remember when the last lot made VED free for vehicles over 25 years old? Gordon quietly froze it at 1973 and older, so he's now getting revenue from all those late 70's cars that would have been exempt under the previous system. Somehow I doubt he's on the Christmas card list of many classic car clubs.


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And the result is ... no change. Not a sausage. What a lot of fuss about nothing. Face it, guys, we're too close to an election for Gordon the Moron to try anything too clever.


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I thought petrol went up?

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mike[F] wrote:
I thought petrol went up?
Nope, all duty on petrol frozen until September '04.

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Excellent. Well, excellent but a reduction would have been even nicer! :D Can't believe how much money I've got through in a few short weeks. Still, it's no more expensive than the train. Just feels it!

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