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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 16:03 
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Motorway closure forces drivers to sleep on the M20
29.11.06

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Drivers caught up in the chaos criticised
the police for failing to warn them about
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Hundreds of drivers were forced to sleep in their cars overnight after a 20-mile stretch of motorway was closed.

Motorists were stuck for up to 12 hours after a stretch of the M20 was turned into a lorry park because of a ferry blockade.

Many drivers switched off their engines and went to sleep as three junctions on the 56-mile motorway were closed between Ashford and Sandgate, Folkestone.

Kent Police acted after French workers formed a blockade in Calais preventing ferries from leaving Dover. A police spokesman said the move - codenamed Operation Stack - could be in place all day. He added that he had "no idea" how long the industrial action would continue.

Zoe Frost, 32, a sales adviser who commutes daily from Maidstone to Dover, said: "We moved one mile in the space of three hours. Eventually people just gave up, switched off their engines and went to sleep. The road came to an abrupt standstill at junction 10 and there was no warning that it was going to happen.

"Unless you listened to the radio travel bulletins you would have had no idea that you were about to hit a monster jam. There were no warning signs anywhere."

Keith Allen was driving home from Ashford with his wife to their house in Folkestone. He said: "We were stuck for five hours moving at a snail's pace.

"Eventually we were forced off the motorway on to the A roads at junction 11 but the situation was no better there, either.

"All the smaller roads had become congested and it took us another two hours to get home. On a good day the whole trip should take less than an hour."

He added: "We have to put up with this about three or four times every year. When the French decide to strike it just brings the M20 to a standstill, with thousands of lorries queuing up trying to get across the Channel. "It becomes hell for car drivers who just want to get home."

Anne Rogers, a 49-year-old nurse from Dover, said: "Once drivers realised they were not getting home for the night they just got out their cars and started talking to each other.

"Nobody could really work out what was going wrong. The atmosphere was pretty grim.

"Lots of people had children in the cars with them who were hungry and tired. People were sharing sandwiches and water around and passing about mobile phones."

The motorway is closed from junctions 8 to 12. Overnight, police were trying to divert drivers off the road at junction 11 to clear the congestion.

A spokesman for Kent Police said: "When we realised other motorists apart from lorry drivers were caught up in it, we opened junction 11 to get them out. But it was like a funnel down there. It was going very slowly."

Drivers were now being diverted off the motorway before they reached the congestion zone, he said.

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"Unless you listened to the radio travel bulletins you would have had no idea that you were about to hit a monster jam. There were no warning signs anywhere."


I would have thought that anyone untertaking that kind of commute would be listening anyway...


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He added: "We have to put up with this about three or four times every year. When the French decide to strike it just brings the M20 to a standstill, with thousands of lorries queuing up trying to get across the Channel. "It becomes hell for car drivers who just want to get home."


Diddums. What about the poor truck drivers that can't do their jobs OR get home because of it?

In all fairness, yes there should be some sort of driver information system in place to help ease the pain, but what are the government doing about the root cause of the problem, the French causing the blockade?

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Sixy_the_red wrote:
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"Unless you listened to the radio travel bulletins you would have had no idea that you were about to hit a monster jam. There were no warning signs anywhere."


I would have thought that anyone untertaking that kind of commute would be listening anyway...


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He added: "We have to put up with this about three or four times every year. When the French decide to strike it just brings the M20 to a standstill, with thousands of lorries queuing up trying to get across the Channel. "It becomes hell for car drivers who just want to get home."


Diddums. What about the poor truck drivers that can't do their jobs OR get home because of it?

In all fairness, yes there should be some sort of driver information system in place to help ease the pain, but what are the government doing about the root cause of the problem, the French causing the blockade?

Is that really the root cause? There is likely to be an underlying cause to the blockade, which is probably the French doing something about some stupid EU drive legislation that the UK will just roll over and accept - or even worse "gold plate" (which is where EU legislation is re-interpreted by HMG, and made 10 times worse than it needs to be).

Personally I would have thought that some land could have been found around Dover somewhere that could be used as a large Truck Stop (complete with facilities for the Drivers), and the practice of deliberately using the M20 as a car-park (yes it is planned) could have been avoided. If they are going to close the motorway and officially turn it into a truck park, then they really ought to have (enforced) plans in place to clear the current traffic (for example closing down to a single lane and keeping the junctions open) and very clear signing all the way back around the M25 and up the M40, M1, M11 etc.


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Rewolf wrote:

Personally I would have thought that some land could have been found around Dover somewhere that could be used as a large Truck Stop (complete with facilities for the Drivers),


the reality is quite the contrary. there are precious few places to park a truck in that area and to make matters worse, they are closing a truck stop to allow development on the land. if memory serves me correctly, that closure will deny us 250 spaces. that will be another 250 trucks trying to find somewhere to sleep EVERY night.

there are various organisations trying to lobby the government with regards to the provision of necessary parking spaces for trucks but you know how slow these things are. our government are slow to act on anything and trucks are bottom of the list. as long as goods are in shops and petrol is in the pumps, the government find it easier to close their ears to us

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Sixy_the_red wrote:
I would have thought that anyone untertaking that kind of commute would be listening anyway...

for a 40 minute drive from London to Dover?

Why they feel the need to close a whole motorway to park the trucks is anyone's guess. Why not leave a lane open or failing that use the !£%*)!£"% overhead gantries or the pseudo cops that are always loitering to get people off the motorway before they get stuck.?


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Sixy_the_red wrote:
I would have thought that anyone untertaking that kind of commute would be listening anyway...

for a 40 minute drive from London to Dover?



why not? i listen to local radio no matter where i am mainly to hear the traffic updates. even if i am driving locally i like to know what i need to avoid

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scanny77 wrote:
why not? i listen to local radio no matter where i am mainly to hear the traffic updates.

well local radio is usually crap but that's down to personal taste I suppose. Unless you happen to time your journeys to the news broadcasts then on such a short journey you're unlikely to hear anything before it's too late anyway. Not to mention that on the m20 "local" radio (of the sort that provides m20 info) only seems to kick in about halfway to dover giving you an even smaller window of opportunity.
I've been stuck on the m20 for just this reason. Had the signs said "motorway closed after junction" rather than "queue after junction" I would have done the sensible thing and got off. As it was, 10 minutes after I'd come to a stop I heard on the 8pm news that some idiot had parked his caravan across all 3 lanes.


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scanny77 wrote:
the reality is quite the contrary. there are precious few places to park a truck in that area and to make matters worse, they are closing a truck stop to allow development on the land. if memory serves me correctly, that closure will deny us 250 spaces. that will be another 250 trucks trying to find somewhere to sleep EVERY night.

So have a protest? Park 250 trucks in Downing Street? :lol:

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So have a protest? Park 250 trucks in Downing Street? :lol:


i think i can speak for most of the haulage industry by saying, we would if we thought it would do any good. as it is, downing street is a bit of a no go at the moment. i heard on the news about police arresting people for stupid reasons suspecting them of terrorism. a protester was arrested even though he was on a silent protest ie he wasnt actually doing anything other than holding a sign. a woman was questioned for stopping to read a copy of the times in a park nearby. i think they are a bit edgy just now. serves them bloody right

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