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MOORHEAD, Minn. (AP) - A man ticketed for speeding thought he'd get even by paying his fine with 12,000 pennies. But the judge had the final word by making him wait for the change to be counted.

"If the person is mad at the cop, why take it out on court administration?" said Clay County District Judge John Pearson. "They're punishing the wrong people."

Rather than count the small garbage can full of pennies by hand, Court Administrator Jan Cosette took them to the bank, where they were put in a counting machine. She returned with $120 in cash and some extra pennies, which were given to the Seattle man, who waited in the courthouse.


Kind of reminds me of the scene in Quadrophenia where Ace gets his cheque book out in court.

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An oldie, but a goodie. But I do agree with judge that he was going for the wrong people. A bit different here though... could a driver send the partnership 61 cheques for 99p each so they have bank them all and then make out a cheque for 39p change? :twisted:

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could a driver send the partnership 61 cheques for 99p each so they have bank them all and then make out a cheque for 39p change? :twisted:


Good one. :wink:

I was thinking of a bag 1p coins sent by post. Add an extra couple of pennies to see if you get change.

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An oldie, but a goodie. But I do agree with judge that he was going for the wrong people. A bit different here though... could a driver send the partnership 61 cheques for 99p each so they have bank them all and then make out a cheque for 39p change? :twisted:


No, I don't think they could. There is a maximum sum one can pay for goods or services in small change, I'm pretty sure the same applies to cheques as well. Someone will no doubt put me straight on this.
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6,000 pennies muddled up with 20,000 assorted washers? :twisted:

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6,000 pennies muddled up with 20,000 assorted washers? :twisted:


How about a few assorted foreign coins (1 cent look like a penny)

Hold on a minute....Euros are legal tender.... :roll:

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6,000 pennies muddled up with 20,000 assorted washers? :twisted:


How about a few assorted foreign coins (1 cent look like a penny)

Hold on a minute....Euros are legal tender.... :roll:


Ah yes - we can Euronate on them then :lol:
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SafeSpeed wrote:
6,000 pennies muddled up with 20,000 assorted washers? :twisted:


How about a few assorted foreign coins (1 cent look like a penny)

Hold on a minute....Euros are legal tender.... :roll:

I don't think that they are.. :(

From the Royal Mint's website...

"LEGAL TENDER GUIDELINES

Legal tender has a very narrow and technical meaning in the settlement of debts. It means that a debtor cannot successfully be sued for non-payment if he pays into court in legal tender. It does not mean that any ordinary transaction has to take place in legal tender or only within the amount denominated by the legislation. Both parties are free to agree to accept any form of payment whether legal tender or otherwise according to their wishes. In order to comply with the very strict rules governing an actual legal tender it is necessary, for example, actually to offer the exact amount due because no change can be demanded.

The amounts for legal tender are stated below.

BANK OF ENGLAND NOTES:

In England and Wales the £5, £10, £20 and £50 notes are legal tender for payment of any amount. However, they are not legal tender in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

COINS:

Circulating Coins are legal tender throughout the United Kingdom for the following amount:


£2 - for any amount

£1 - for any amount

50p - for any amount not exceeding £10

25p (Crown) - for any amount not exceeding £10

20p - for any amount not exceeding £10

10p - for any amount not exceeding £5

5p - for any amount not exceeding £5

2p - for any amount not exceeding 20p

1p - for any amount not exceeding 20p"


So, although you could pay a £60 fine with 6000 pennies, the recipient is not obliged to accept it.

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Ah yes - we can Euronate on them then :lol:


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An oldie, but a goodie. But I do agree with judge that he was going for the wrong people. A bit different here though... could a driver send the partnership 61 cheques for 99p each so they have bank them all and then make out a cheque for 39p change? :twisted:


No, I don't think they could. There is a maximum sum one can pay for goods or services in small change, I'm pretty sure the same applies to cheques as well. Someone will no doubt put me straight on this.

Okay, 59 cheques of £1.02 each? 18p change is even better. :twisted:

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Okay, 59 cheques of £1.02 each? 18p change is even better. :twisted:

Be imaginative man...

Find a pig (a live one), chop it's ear off, run it down to the local tattooist and have him tattoo a cheque with your bank details on to it, then run it in to your local courthouse (preferably still dripping with blood) and pay the fine like that.

If you are too squemish for the above, then have a cheque engraved on to a paving slab and present that to the fines office.

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Okay, 59 cheques of £1.02 each? 18p change is even better. :twisted:


How about £1.02 1/4? You can refuse to accept farthings as change, as they're no longer legal tender.

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Is'nt there a myth that somebody submitted a cheque written on the side of a cow?
I remember seeing a link in either this or the CSCP forum once!! :lol:

It resulted from this totally false story from PUNCH magazine.
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In another classic case, Albert Haddock attempted thus to pay his taxes: "On the 31st of May the Collector was diverted from his respectable labours by the apparition of a noisy crowd outside his windows. The crowd, Sir Basil, had been attracted by Mr. Haddock, who was leading a large white cow of malevolent aspect. On the back and sides of the cow were clearly stenciled in red ink the following words: 'TO THE LONDON AND LITERARY BANK, Ltd.: Pay the Collector of Taxes, who is no gentleman, or Order, the sum of fifty-seven pounds (and may he rot!). £ 57/l0/0 ALBERT HADDOCK' Mr. Haddock conducted the cow into the Collector's office, tendered it to the Collector in payment of income-tax and demanded a receipt... noting that the Collector could endorse the cow to any third party to whom he owed money, adding that there must be many persons in that position. The Collector then endeavored to endorse the cheque... on the abdomen of the cow. The cow, however, appeared to resent endorsement and adopted a menacing posture. The Collector, abandoning the attempt, declined finally to take the cheque. Mr. Haddock led the cow away and was arrested in Trafalgar Square for causing an obstruction. He has also been summoned by the Board of Inland Revenue for non-payment of income-tax."]


Herbert, Alan Patrick ["APH"] (1890-1971) British humorist, playwright and legal reformer [noted for his contributions to the humorous weekly Punch]

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