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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 18:16 
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Prompted by our local radio running a report on drivers who had failed to receive Tax discs paid for online, I googled for the effects of the Royal Mail strike to see how much it really cost the economy - and I find that even the government may lose out money wise. :lol:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2698934/Speeding-fines-hit-by-postal-strike.html

The SUN wrote:
Speeding fines hit by strike
By CLODAGH HARTLEY
Consumer Affairs Editor

TENS of thousands of motorists will dodge speed camera fines because of the mail strikes.

Drivers cannot be convicted unless they receive notification of their offence within two weeks.

And the postal workers' stoppages last week mean about 20,000 notices of intended prosecution a day have got stuck in the backlog and will not be delivered on time.

Thousands more will be buried in the mail mountain if this week's three-day strike goes ahead on Thursday.

Motorists using the legal loophole will escape a £60 fine and three points on their licence for speeding or jumping a red light.

A driver who already has nine points will dodge a six-month ban.

The authorities rake in about £6million a week from 100,000 speeding and other traffic fines.

The delayed notices could lose them about £1.2million a day.

Road traffic lawyer Chris Sweetman said: "If a notice arrives more than 14 days after the alleged offence the driver cannot be prosecuted because it would be 'out of time' in a court."

Anti-speed camera campaigner Captain Gatso said: "This may be the only silver lining to the postal strike."

Royal Mail chief Adam Crozier yesterday said he hoped union chiefs making "nonsense" claims would "shut up" and "common sense" would prevail when they meet bosses for fresh talks today.

Up to 120,000 workers are set to strike again from Thursday.

THE industrial action has cost London businesses £500million this summer, a survey said yesterday.

So because the greedy scammerati will not use recorded delivery, "guilty" motorists have been handed a chance to avoid the ticket?

I have 2 packets sent out last week still not delivered, which I know, because I paid the extra 40 pence to have them go RECORDED Delivery - for a smaller amount than a £60 fine!!
So why can the CTO not use it too?

Meanwhile, thousands of businesses who have to work for a living suffer because the Royal Mail cannot run it's business the way it wants to.
If it were not a monopoly, the usual way of handling this would be to wind up the company and start afresh!

Back to the Tax disc story, does anyone know how long you could drive without displaying a tax disc if the Royal Mail have not delivered it yet? I know I can count the number of police cars I have seen this year on the fingers of my hands, but chances are that at least one would appear the moment my tax disc get's held up in the post!
According to our local BBC, 5 days is all you are allowed, as the DVLA say that they should be delivered by then!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 19:13 
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Everything I expected turned up when I expected it to.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 22:40 
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Johnnytheboy wrote:
Everything I expected turned up when I expected it to.


Likewise - hope I'm wrong ,but since the very first postal strike the PO has been losing business hand over fist to competition .But then ,if firms can afford to send out tons of junk mail by Royal mail - don't that say something about the cost to the firms .And then ,if the competition want to take over the lucrative side - they should be forced to charge a flat rate for all other items on the UK.(Just like RM).
Ask a private firm to deliver between ,say Glasgow and London -it'll be one rate .Ask them to deliver between somewhere in the sticks in Cornwall ( no offence JTB) and somewhere in the sticks in Barra -sit back and wait for the plumber like whooo -(the one you get from the plumber when he's trying to jack up the price) - but then RM do it ,so why not any other company .

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Unfortunately my postie is a cretin who stuffs mail in any old box in our flats (when he isn't dropping it on the pavement outside) so it's hard to tell if I have been affected. I've been talking to RM about the damage done to the letter box.

If I add up:

Damage to letter box,
Cost of calls to RM's 'customer annoyance' line
Letters sent to RM by recorded delivery so they cannot claim they didn't recieve them (that's a naff defence for dealing with postal complaints - our service is so bad we didn't recieve your complaint in the post),
Buying back issues of trade mags, lost or damaged,
Cost in time and phone calls getting re-issues of bills and packages re-sent out.

I'm looking at the best part of £400-00

One of my neighbours has made the comment that he's going to keep an eye out and belt the postie if he catches him damaging his post again. I can't condone, but I can see that me doing it 'by the book' is getting me nowhere, a 'short, sharp, shock' would certainly be remembered.

Most people I've spoken to have very little sympathy with the posties round here.

As for outgoing I've tried to get everything out a week before the strike, the two things I had to send out last week went recorded as apparently they were still being dealt with.

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