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Of course before we did have this sort of education when young girls got pregnant (and it did happen, a lot, but people didn't speak about it) they either sought back street abortion, had the child taken off them (or were forceably incarcerated with it) or it was "adopted" into one of the families as the child of the grand mother, and the sister/brother of the father/mother.

Young people have, always have had, and always will have sex.

In fact, some of the countries with the lowest teen pregnancy rate have the highest spend on such education, with parts of the USA's "just say no" country (where there is no such education to speak of) have the highest rates.

I found this intresting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7kKnLW7S-s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY349NgA ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roiQwD9XAoY

I do sort of agree with you Big Tone

It's strange to me that weepej seems to have a pragmatic, down-to-Earth attitude towards most things, but such a blind spot when it comes to speed cameras, disproportionate punishments and other unnecessary restrictions on the motorist.

True.
Children (sorry young people to give them their PC term). Should be taught about condoms etc. But also taught how to have healthy sex life from the emotional perspective. I think this links into self-control, which we don’t teach young people. We as a society are feeling the effects of it.

The behaviour and attitude of some young people is like that of a lower animal. Eat, drink, F£$K.

I don't like or approve of the message that it's sending out which is - it's okay to shag (sorry to be crude)

whereas the roads are a public place where my loved ones drive, walk and cycle on.

Why is it not okay to shag? It's what we're designed for...

It's strange to me that weepej seems to have a pragmatic, down-to-Earth attitude towards most things, but such a blind spot when it comes to speed cameras, disproportionate punishments and other unnecessary restrictions on the motorist. He can see that prohibitive, draconian, anti-libertarian attitudes can have opposite, unintended consequences with things like drug-taking and young people having sex - but he apparently won't even entertain the possibility with motoring.

It's another thing which, I'm afraid, makes me wonder whether there's a fundamental problem with cars governing all this and preventing logic from being applied. I'm not trying to provoke anyone, I'm just trying to make sense of it all.

Interesting topic though Big Tone, and not one that I mean to drag off-course.

The youth haven't lost respect. People just get bitter and grumpier when they get older.

As I made mention to in another thread, the number of times I've been witness to young people holding shop doors open for the elderly only for them to barge straight past as if it was expected without a word of thanks.

It's ironic, people are so dead set against teens hanging around town centres but equally opposed to any kind of proposal to build/create a place for them to go. In truth the vast majority of teens just want to 'hang' with their mates and yes they do make the place look untidy but so do fifty blue rinsed cardigan's queueing up outside the post office to get their pensions, but we seem to tolerate them.

Also, where did this notion come from that youth crime was somehow invented in 2001? Just look at the sheer hooligans that we had walking the town centres back 30 years ago? Sure now someone might binge drink and throw up outside McDonalds but the running pitch street battles between Skinheads and some other frightful faction are long gone. Yet we are always being told how great things were back then and how much more respect those people had. You didn't. We don't. Kids aren't that different, no matter what generation they come from.

I don't actually think it's changed that much... We were just as wild 20 odd years ago .. I was a punk and was wilder than the kids I see today .. People never change... just the rules, and we rarely abide by them anyway.. The majority of today's youth are ok kids, there will always be a percentage of unsavouries around.

The governments "respect" adverts will never work anyway, they have got the wrong end of the stick [again][as usual].
They would do better showing the guy [with no 'spect] trying to live with the gov taking 20% of his pay for the child.