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Excellent, although depressing, article from James Delingpole in the Sunday Telegraph:

Too scared to speak our mind

Fortunately this forum is one place where you can still speak your mind. Long may it continue

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

Im not so certain you CAN speak your mind here, or anywhere Peter.
Are you so certain of it that youd discuss "sensitive" or Labour "tabooed" subjects such as race or religion, sexual orientation etc?
I reckon youd print it but youd not remain free for too long as this board like others is subjected to government/authority scrutiny by the tiny willied minions who do their nasty work for them.
I reckon if someone said something that has been decreed "illegal" here that the perceived freedoms of speech you think you have (even here) wouldnt be upheld as the isp are duty bound by law to provide info to the police for the purposes of "anti terrorist" operations.
Youre being monitored and they want you to know it so they can control whats said and ultimately thought; a nasty pervasive invasive bunch of stasi cowards.
Watch what you say but do what you want behind their backs and f@ck em all.

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"Safety" Scamera Partnerships;
Profitting from death and misery since 1993.

Believe nothing- Question everything.

That's where I'm going wrong then....I'm the sort who calls a spade a spade and doesn't give a fuck what anybody else thinks.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

If you don't believe the official line supporting man-made global warming you're not "someone with an different point of view", you're officially tagged a "denier". A clever and tainted catch-phrase to marginalise those who dare challenge what we're told to believe. This is about as scientific as the mob-rule mentality behind witch hunts of the middle ages, and shows how little we've evolved socially since then.

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Fear is a weapon of mass distraction

I see today that some newly appointed security chief has said that we should all report our family, friends and neighbours who we think may be involved in suspicious activities.

Now, I know he was thinking of terrorism but you know how this spreads like the plague. Pretty soon we will have teachers asking their pupils "Do your parents believe in climate change?"

The police will soon become overwhelmed with reports from busybodies that the man over the road has something suspicious in his garage - a gas guzzler!

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

I wouldn't express it in quite those terms, but I'm pretty much of the same view.

If we don't say what we really feel, we're simply misleading each other and that's no help.

I'm certainly not bothered about being seen to hold a minority viewpoint - it's a regular thing with me.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

Youre not going wrong at all, they are.

The likes of you and i were never consulted on what aspects of our liberty; our RIGHTS were to be removed, were we?
No. Bliar and his band of trough feeders just arbitrarily imposed themselves and their mindless ideals on us all, taking advantage of a generation who know nothing of what it means to have to fight for their rights, a generation spoon fed bullshit news and tv programmes that have eliminated any aspirations to become anything but a good tax source and a compliant "citizen".

The films Equilibrium and V for Vendetta share a remarkable similarity with todays situation dont you think?
A whole obsequious population deemed subservient by those who wish to keep us that way, with tax and laws and threats and coersion while those who stole our rights away live the life of privelige and freedom they deny us.

Im very much a straight talker but its a fool who puts himself in a position to be prosecuted just for exercising his supposed freedom of speech, at least until enough people form a resistance of critical mass to do something about it.
Until then, its advisable to talk softly but carry a big stick.

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"Safety" Scamera Partnerships;
Profitting from death and misery since 1993.

Believe nothing- Question everything.

I can't see that happening, unless people speak out in public.

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

France 1942.
Speak out and get shot.

Britain 2007.
Speak out and get "detained".

Parallels are plain to see, its only the degree of control thats different, either way its an assault on freedom and it cannot be allowed to continue, but as in 1942 speaking out isnt the way to defeat them.

The enemy isnt your next door neighbour, or some hypothetical terrorists, its that pack of wankers in parliament, theyre the real terrorists.

Best none violent method to defeat them is simply to not play the voting game.
No votes =no legitimacy.

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"Safety" Scamera Partnerships;
Profitting from death and misery since 1993.

Believe nothing- Question everything.

Nice idea, till those of us old enough to remember how the unions got taken over.

Can't remember the whole story, but from memory, meetings were made boring for the average member who was a regular to meetings. He and the rest of the centre ground stayed away from meetings, the floor was taken over (by apathy) by the dedicated left, who in turn took over the union.
Even if those of us who cared enough didn't vote, there will always be a hard core who will vote - and that's how we end up in a mess ( just like now ).
Someone on here has a sig , about how crime can't survive when decent folk stand up ( or similar ) -it's the motto of Neighbourhood watch. Perhaps we need something like that to defeat the "control " minority freaks, because they will only be alowed to exercise their power as a minority, if we the majority allow it.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

I find that it is not so much the people who dare not speak out against current thinking, but people in the BBC. Lets face it every news bulletin must Carry a global warming story. Every other builtin must have a kids getting obese story. For years the BBC (and the rest of TV) did not screen a visibly pregnant presenter. Now it is hard to find a female presenter who isn't.

Moving away from the BBC.
The press are reporting forgotten Hull in the flooding. Blaming government... But why, because the press did not report from Hull. All the flood victims were forgotten for a week because the government and the press were obsessed with the new regime at Westminster. 1 square mile in the center of London. Prince Charles was the first to make it up north followed by the one man without a job, Prescott!

Then there is a "terror alert in London" there was megger reporting on the piccadilly incident. Yet the other car that was towed was completely swept under the carpet. Who is pulling the strings? Fleet Street dare not report this cock-up in case they get cut out of the press releases from government? OR was it the shortage of facts? pictures?

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

There are two types (in my opinion) of "PC". There is the scourge of all things sensible, "political correctness", which incidentally predates the current Labour government, and there is another "backronym", less currently well known but deserving of an effort to save the PC initials from total loss. That's "Polite & Courteous".

I believe in my time on this board, race, or more accurately racism HAS been discussed at some length, and done quite politely; a "grown up discussion", if sometimes heated. Religion has not been discussed much, but then if no-one is interested in the discussion and it doesn't come up, that's not the same as a taboo. Sexual orientation? Again, as far as I can recall, not been discussed but has never been banned. I'd go so far as to suspect that some of the posters on here prefer relations with men rather than women, but as it's not apposite to the subject matter it hasn't been discussed. If you wish to raise these subjects, as long as you can keep it as an adult discussion, and remain polite and courteous, I would not expect anyone to have a problem with it.

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COAST Not just somewhere to keep a beach.

A young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless, in a world of criminals who operate above the law.

What does someone's sexuality have to do with their views on a given subject?

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

nothing at all, that's what the words "it's not apposite" means.

Apposite

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COAST Not just somewhere to keep a beach.

A young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless, in a world of criminals who operate above the law.

Do you have a problem with this? Why on earth have you brought it up? It seems totally irrelevant to me.

And what about people who prefer relations with animals rather than humans?

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

Because some of the posters on here are ladies. Which was the part of the sentence I omitted.

Relations with animals differ from relations with people, in that, as far as I am aware, the former is illegal. Whilst I'm often quoted saying that I can't be sure that I'm straight (despite 10 years of marriage and 4 kids) as I may just not have met the right guy, I'm fairly certain I could never meet the right dog!

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COAST Not just somewhere to keep a beach.

A young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless, in a world of criminals who operate above the law.

Interesting comment! So behid these ID's how do you know who is male, female, streight or gay? Are you assuming that every MR2 owner is a gay hairdresser ? I haven't got a clue on one gay person. I have heard of gaydar, but does it work through typewritten text. I must be missing out on a lot of hidden messages.

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

I refer you to my comment on the post 8 minutes earlier:



I have no idea of the preference of most of the posters on here, but I seem to recall one lady referring to "him" when mentioning her partner.

All happy now?

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COAST Not just somewhere to keep a beach.

A young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent, the helpless, the powerless, in a world of criminals who operate above the law.

Exactly, so why bring it up?


No

For all you know she could be a lesbian and "him" could simply have been the weekday sperm doner.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

Stop digging and step away from the sexuality hole!