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r11co
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 18:46 
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Blazing Car Crashes into Glasgow Airport

I shouldn't mock, but it looks like we've had another wannabee terrorist attack (just 5 miles from me this time...)

Eye witness description talk of the choice of car being too big to crash through the doors (they took two runs at them and then gave up), then one of the vehicle passengers attempted to throw a Molatov cocktail but in his excitement launched it less than three feet and set alight to himself.

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Monty Python does terrorism eh?

Its not really funny but you can't help but laugh :roll:

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This is serious, although funny :)

There have been more and more attempted attacks on the UK.

Sooner or later a terrorist will get through.
I know our security intelligence is (probably) the best in the world, but it cant by average be impossible to get around??

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i pointed that very same thing out last night. it does make me wonder why there are no crash barriers outside the building though. surely all airports (among other key targets) should have vehicle access blocked off by now. plenty of shops are protected against ram raids so why not airports? in fact, why not block all vehicle access to a set distance from the terminal. walking 100 yards or so isnt gonna kill air passengers is it? :roll:

it does raise concerns though. this failed miserably. what will they learn though? a car isnt robust enough so go for something bigger next time? trucks have tore through buildings by accident in the past so ploughing into a building wih a truck could be the next step and with the space in the back, they could make a big bang. they need to stop ALL public traffic from getting so close to key buildings.

incidentally, why is the public road through grangemouth oil refinery not closed? it doesnt lead anywhere so it could be restricted to company traffic only with no problems yet there is no visible change to the security around the perimeter :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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I dunno.

Watched that wierd film "Brazil" the other night. Cant help feeling that truth is becoming stranger than fiction.

Especially when we saw "Brown_eye" on TV last night promising that he will protect us and keep us safe from all the nasty terrorists as long as we put our faith and trust in him, the government and the police/security services!

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Dusty wrote:
as long as we put our faith and trust in him, the government


i think i would put more trust and faith in the terrorists. at least they dont talk gibberish before sneaking around doing their own thing

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The problem is,

The Terrorists only have to get lucky ONCE

The Police have to get lucky every time.

So, the odds are on the side of the terrorists, as we have so unfortunately seen in the past.

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Expect a push towards ID cards on the back of these latest 'attacks'. After all, there are people waiting for their backhanders who can't be disappointed.....
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r11co wrote:
Expect a push towards ID cards on the back of these latest 'attacks'. After all, there are people waiting for their backhanders who can't be disappointed.....


And don't forget the 90 day thing too ----sadly the spoof news report was only TOOOOOOO near the mark.

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My favourite quote was one newsreader interviewing an eye witness by phone...

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Is the jeep being treated as suspicious.
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Wasn't the Bali bomb in a scooter or motorcycle?

It doesn't follow that keeping vehicles away from the terminal will make it safe.
Better intelligence, and observation by the public will be required.

I'm also astonished that NHS syringes are getting badmouthed as the cause of the failure, or that the fact the bombers worked within the NHS was the only route by which they were obtainable! How many would you like and what size? My business uses them all the time, and we can order them by the carton - as could anybody else!

Finally I was seriously annoyed that the BBC had a so called terrorist expert on live TV, describing the principle by which the bombs were intended to work, and be deployed! :shock:
I immediately emailed my concern as a complaint, but it's not the first time - after the 7/7 attacks, Sky News had a web site on their video backdrop, where the URL could clearly be read, where bombs and detonators are discussed in minute detail.
While I dont think the terrorists have much to learn, we don't want every Tom, Dick or Harry with a grudge having this flagged up in front of them!

The media REALLY need to show a bit of restraint in their reporting, and the public need to be aware that somethings are best left unreported! :oops:

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Glasgow versus the USA

If this had happened in a US airport, compared to Glasgow - Eyewitness accounts.


America:"Oh my God! there was a man on fire, he was running about, I just ran for my life..I thought I was gonna die, he got so close to me"

Glasgow "C*nt wis running aboot on fire, so a ran up n gave him a good boot, then decked him"


America:"I just wanna get home, away from here..I just wanna get home, I thought I was gonna die"

Glasgow:"here shug, am no leaving here till am oan a f*ckin' plane!"


America:"there was pandemonium, people were running in all directions, we didn't know what was hapening, I thought I was gonna die"

Glasgow:"F*ck this fir a kerry oan, moan we'll get a pint in"


America:"We thought he was gonna blow us all up he had a gas canister, and was trying to get into his trunk, I thought we were gonna die, I just ran for my life"

Glasgow:"a swaggered by the motor that wis on fire, and the dafty couldnae even open his boot, he wis in fire annaw so a
ran up n gave him a good boot to the baws"


America: "there was this huge explosion, it sounded like war, I thought I was gonna die"

Glasgow:"There wis a bang, yi know when yi throw BO basher intae a fire it wis like that"


America:"I'm too traumatised even to speak, I thought I was gonna die"

Glasgow "here mate, gies 2 minutes till a phone ma auld dear, if am gonna be oan the telly a want her tae tape it"



& finally, two quotes from an eye-witness.........John Smeaton (these are real)

John just surpassed himself on the National ITV news.The interviewer asked "What message do you have for the bombers" - he replied;
"This is Glasgow we'll just set about you"

John did an interview on CNN and they asked how he restrained the guy and he said
"me and other folk were just tryin 2 get the boot in and some other guy banjoed him"

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I was listening to the radio the other night when a caller from Glasgow came on...

Refering to the attack, he mentioned that "before" the security measures, that the stretch of road where the "attack" took place used to be crowed with vehicles and anyone wanting to persecute such a thing would have been thwarted by traffic!

The act of installing "security" meant that the road was:............."clear"


???????...............
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There were, in fact, quite a few people hurt other than the terrorists - by the "authorities"...

Have a look at:- http://www.squandertwo.net/blog/2007/07 ... curity.htm

Interesting that it appears to have been completely missed by the mainstream media. Some of the follow-up comments are interesting too.

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