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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 18:56 
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Not the waves, not even the net - latest craze as per Midlands today Midlands version - on car roofs. One youth airlifted to Coventry Hospital after coming off on farm lane.
video clips on line

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another american fad, thick english chavs probably havn't figured yank cars all have auto boxes tho.

millions on youtube, but here's a choice clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhuJk5oG0JM

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Not car jacking - performing public safety duty by removing public hazard.(as in testing wooden mallet on chav head) :roll:

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Isn't it called "risk homeostasis" or something like that? i.e. when peoples' lives are so risk-free that they feel the need to go out looking for some artificial risks to replace the natural risk that's been legislated out of their lives?

Still, I notice ROSPA are now starting to see the light and have suggested that it's good for kids to be exposed to moderate risk of minor injury...

...I guess this is just developing the idea a bit further...! :wink:


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Mole wrote:
Isn't it called "risk homeostasis" or something like that? i.e. when peoples' lives are so risk-free that they feel the need to go out looking for some artificial risks to replace the natural risk that's been legislated out of their lives?

Still, I notice ROSPA are now starting to see the light and have suggested that it's good for kids to be exposed to moderate risk of minor injury...

...I guess this is just developing the idea a bit further...! :wink:

My youngest son is attending fortnightly sessions with Riding for the Disabled - and and last Monday, was not allowed to ride in shorts! :shock:
I'll bring the ROSPA article to their attention next session!!

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Nothing new, we were doing this when I was a kid and even when I was serving in Northern Ireland, we'd break the monotony of a quiet night shift by "Surfing" through Londonderry on the top of an armoured LandRover

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Wasn't so long ago that they were surfing trains.

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Wasn't so long ago that they were surfing trains.


On the news last night, kids in South Africa doing it.

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Wasn't so long ago that they were surfing trains.


On the news last night, kids in South Africa doing it.


If South Africa is anything like India, thats just third class!

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And in Bury St. Edmunds

There's something not right about this story though. Bury hospital (where the ambulance probably came from) is only 5 minutes from that car park and Addenbrooks is about 40 minutes by road but they used a helicopter. The rest of the time seems to have been spent trying to control the chav who was surfing. Getting up to the top, even with the equipment, would not have taken more than a few minutes.

There is nothing wrong with the car park. As the article says it it not unusually low compared to other multi-story car parks. You can't drive the ambulance into any other multi-storey building (shops, offices etc.) so why would a car park need to be any different.

http://www.eadt.co.uk/content/eadt/news/story.aspx?brand=EADOnline&category=News&tBrand=EADOnline&tCategory=News&itemid=IPED14%20Jun%202007%2023%3A49%3A30%3A083

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PARAMEDICS unable to drive their ambulance to the top of a car park had to spend two hours getting a teenager with a serious head injury to hospital.

They were called to the Parkway multi-storey car park in Bury St Edmunds after the youngster was injured in a “car surfing” prank.

But after finding they were unable to drive the ambulance to the eleventh floor to treat the 17-year-old, paramedics had to carry life-saving equipment up to the top.

They then had to sedate the teenager, who had fallen from the bonnet of a black Ford Escort, strap him to a spinal board and take him back down again before he could be taken to hospital.

The whole process - from arrival to dispatch - took an hour and 50 minutes.

A second factor in the delay on Wednesday, paramedics claim, was the “combative” nature of the patient as a result of his head injury.

Once he reached street level, the 17-year-old was transferred to the East Anglian Air Ambulance and flown to Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge.

Daimon Wheddon, an East Anglian Air Ambulance paramedic, said: “It was quite a difficult job because we could not get the land ambulance up the levels because the car park is only built for cars and small vans.

“So everything had to be ferried up and he was taken down on a spinal board to street level. He had to be anaesthetised.

“Lorries and vans cannot go in multi-storeys like this. An ambulance is a large van and there is no clearance.”

St Edmundsbury Borough Council last night defended its car park, saying the floors were above the industry standard, the building was equipped with lifts and adding that the structure has won two safety awards.

“The car park is designed for exactly that - cars - and as a result there is a height restriction in place to prevent lorries and large vans from using it,” a spokesperson said.

“At 2.2 metres, the Parkway multi-storey is actually higher than the recommended industry standard (2.1m).

“Anyone who needed medical attention while on the upper floors of the multi-storey would normally be taken to an ambulance in the lift.

“However, these circumstances were exceptional and because the patient was on a spinal board, he had to be taken down the car park's ramps.

“The multi-storey is a building and not a road, so getting medical help to someone on the eleventh floor of this building is no different to ambulance crews attending an incident in the eleventh floor of a block of flats.”

But the situation has stunned Bury St Edmunds MP David Ruffley.

He said: “I am really surprised. In a health and safety world when everything and everybody is checked for health and safety, I really scratch my head in wonder at how multi-storey car parks can be built without some reference to the height of an ambulance.

“I would have thought a public car park would been compliant with the height of an ambulance.”

A second 17-year-old was arrested in connection with the incident and released on police bail.


Timeline of events:

1.42pm East Anglian Air Ambulance arrives near the scene.
1.45pm East Anglian Ambulance Service land vehicle arrives at the scene but the crew is unable to drive to the top so begins the task of taking equipment up to the victim and then carrying him back down.
3.32pm Patient is dispatched in the air ambulance for Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge


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