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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6243803.stm

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Hemel's Tory MP Mike Penning has just about sewn up the motorists' vote with a new demand for the scrapping of thousands of speed cameras.

He has tabled a Commons motion that will delight drivers suspicious that they are being used as a ready supply of cash through fines which are nothing to do with road safety.

Mr Penning points out the number of speed cameras on UK roads has risen dramatically over recent years and that ministers have admitted not all of them are "appropriately placed".

"Motorists are increasingly frustrated that many of them are installed as a cash raising mechanism," he says.

And he has urged the government to launch a thorough review of all speed camera locations leading to the removal of cameras which do not improve road safety.

Now, if he really wants to corner the market, what about "inappropriately placed" traffic wardens?


And the Tories are calling for the scrapping of ID cards
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6332927.stm
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Tories launch anti-ID card push
Mock-up ID card
About £58m has been spent so far on ID cards
The Conservatives are launching a print and internet campaign against the introduction of identity cards.

It comes after shadow home secretary David Davis wrote to Cabinet Secretary Sir Gus O'Donnell to warn him a Tory government would scrap the scheme.

In the letter, he asked what measures were in place to ensure that early cancellation does not hit taxpayers.

The Tories say cards will damage civil liberties, but the government insists they will improve security.

'Convention'

The letter from Mr Davis, sent on Monday, said the Cabinet secretary was "formally on notice" of the party's intentions.

It added: "You will be aware that there is a long-standing convention that one parliament may not bind a subsequent parliament.

"As you will also be aware, the Conservative Party has stated publicly that it is our intention to cancel the ID cards project immediately on our being elected to government."

Mr Davis also warned the firms likely to bid to run the ID cards project about the party's intentions.

Around £58m has been spent so far on the scheme.

Ministers say it will cost £5.4bn over 10 years, but the Tories estimate the figure will be nearer £20bn.

'Acting soft'

Critics say the cards, due in 2009 and compulsory for passport applicants from 2010, will breach privacy. But ministers say they will aid security.

Home Secretary John Reid accused Mr Davis and Tory leader David Cameron of trying to "talk tough while acting soft".

He added: "They will the ends whilst constantly opposing the means to protect the people of this country."

Cards will contain basic identification information including the name, address, gender, date of birth and photo of the holder.

Last December, the government abandoned plans for a giant new computer system to run the scheme.

Instead of a single multi-billion pound system, information will be held on three existing, separate databases.

The government says the cards will help tackle illegal immigration, identity fraud, organised crime and terrorism.

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I do hope that there's actually substance to this rather than just a hollow attempt at winning votes.

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Have the tories finally woken up to the fact that they are essentially a party for freedom and have no business following the nannying agenda.


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I agree with both your comments. It seems as though political parties other than Labour are hearing the rumbles of discontent from the populace.

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It's an Early Day Motion:

http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetai ... DMID=32507

Just 8 signatures so far. :(

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Sixy_the_red wrote:
I do hope that there's actually substance to this rather than just a hollow attempt at winning votes.


I don't actually believe that ANY (of any political party) MP's do ANYTHING that isn't supporting the latter.

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(and like if it were anyone else) - as soon as the Tories are in, ID cards and more speed cameras are ramped up "in dramatic u-turn", followed by the opposition pledging to scrap both if elected at the next GE.

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(and like if it were anyone else) - as soon as the Tories are in, ID cards and more speed cameras are ramped up "in dramatic u-turn", followed by the opposition pledging to scrap both if elected at the next GE.

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