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Use of Sodium Fluoride for mass behaviour control in Nazi Germany
http://www.greaterthings.com/Lexicon/F/Fluoride.htm

It is a matter of record that sodium fluoride has been used for behaviour control of populations.
In an "Address in Reply to the Governor's Speech to Parliament", Mr. Harley Rivers Dickinson, Liberal Party Member of the Victorian Parliament for South Barwon, Australia [In Australia, parliamentarian Mr. Harley Dickenson raised the issue in the Victorian Legislative council, which is recorded in the official Hansard report on August 12th, 1987] made a statement on the historical use of fluorides for behaviour control.
Mr. Dickinson reveals that,
"At the end of the Second World War, the United States Government sent Charles Elliot Perkins, a research worker in chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology, to take charge of the vast Farben chemical plants in Germany. While there, he was told by German chemists of a scheme which had been worked out by them during the war and adopted by the German General Staff.
"This scheme was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water. In this scheme, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place.
"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotising a certain area of the brain, and will thus make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him.
"Both the Germans and the Russians added fluoride to the drinking water of prisoners of war to make them stupid and docile."
It is interesting that Dr. George Estabrooks, an advisor to the United States Government on hypnotism and psychological behaviour control, later became chairman of the Department of Psychology at Colgate University. Internationally, Colgate was and remains today the most ardent producer and advocate for fluoridated toothpaste. The use of chemicals by the government to modify behaviour of select population groups is not new. During the first two World Wars, bromides were administered to service men to dim the libido in an attempt to inhibit forays into local bordellos.
Today, in Australia, the military fluoridates the drinking water of the soldiers, ostensibly to protect the teeth. However, since the mythical ability of fluorides "to prevent tooth decay" only exists for those under the age of 12, it is certain that the real purpose is less altruistic. In volume one of Matrix III, we discussed the role of Alcoa Aluminium in the production of fluoride, the role of Alcoa lawyer Oscar Ewing, who eventually gained control of what was to become the United States Public Health Service, his promotion of fluoridation and the use of advertising and false propaganda in an attempt to sell water fluoridation to an unsuspecting public. Interestingly, it turns out that Alcoa transferred its sodium fluoride production technology to Germany in 1939 under the Alted Agreement, and Dow Chemical Company transmitted its experience and technology to Germany during the same period.
So, we have the U.S. transmitting technology to Germany before the war that allows Germany to experiment on select elements of the European population, and then after the war Nazi scientists and the results of experiments are brought back to the United States under Operation Paperclip. Curious, isn't it?
A little research turned up the fact that I.G. Farben developed organophosphate nerve agents, Zyklon B cyanide-based extermination gas used on the Jews during the war, and many other interesting substances. I.G. Farben, financially supported by the United States, was the first to develop and process heroin and cocaine. They also developed fluorinated nerve gases Sarin and Soman. Farben had many interconnections with companies in the United States and Britain. Consult the illustrative chart in this book.
In a letter abstracted from Fluoridation and Lawlessness, published by the Committee for Mental Health and National Security (with obvious implications) from the aforementioned Charles Perkins, U.S. appointed post-war head of I.G. Farben, to the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, October 2, 1954, we read the following:
"We are told by the fanatical ideologists who are advocating the fluoridation of the water supplies in this country that their purpose is to reduce the incidence of tooth decay in children, and it is the plausibility of this excuse, plus the gullibility of the public and the cupidity of public officials that is responsible for the present spread of artificial water fluoridation in this country.
"However - and I want to make this very definite and positive - the real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children's teeth. If this were the real reason, there are many ways in which it could be done which are much easier, cheaper and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination, control and loss of liberty."
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"When the Nazis decided to go into Poland, the German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and military ideas, plans and personnel. The scheme of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plans to Communise the world. I say this in all earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorides. Any person who drinks artificially fluoridated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person, mentally or physically."
When Major General Racey Jordan was in charge of the massive lend-lease airlift operations from Great Falls, Montana to Russia, via Alaska, he queried the trans-shipment of considerable amounts of sodium fluoride. He was told frankly that it was to put into the drinking water of the prisoner of war camps to take away their will to resist. It is also interesting that former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, who has a background in academic chemistry, initiated a program involving astronomical expenditures of UK revenue on a fluoridation campaign in Northern Ireland.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder.............................. :o

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LOL

but how can ingesting the third most Toxic substance known to mankind be harmless?

i would say the Gov are hypocrites

banning smoking whilst on the other hand force feeding us a Toxin slightly less Toxic than Mercury and Lead? EH?

you obviously have no problem with taking forced Medication against your will then? :o

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If this is true, then how come all the dumbest people I know drink bottled water?


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Zamzara wrote:
If this is true, then how come all the dumbest people I know drink bottled water?

Oi :)

I drink bottled water, not because of the fluoride arguments but because Portsmouth water smells and tastes like chlorine :yuck:
At less than 10p per litre I'm not complaining.


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traitorblair wrote:
but how can ingesting the third most Toxic substance known to mankind be harmless?

One of the pillars of modern toxicology is the notion that "what makes a poison is the dose". It was even understood by the Renaissance physician Paracelsus some 500 years ago that "Nothing is in itself a poison or cure, everything depends on the dosage".

Arsenic, for example, is highly toxic yet in small doses can be used as a tonic, and is also found in many bottled waters... "Botox", used by injection in beauty treatments, is a highly-dilute form of Botulinus Toxin - probably the most toxic substance on the planet.

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Trattoria Blairentino, if you are starting a campaign against hazardous substances, perhaps start with DiHydrogen Monoxide. In fact, why not write to your hero (at 10, Downing Street, London) and ask him why such an obviously lethal substance is freely available; I've even seen kids playing near to it without any clue as to the danger they were putting themselves in.

Oh, please, won't somebody think of the children.

Oh, and whatever hazardous substances you've been using? Perhaps attenuate the dose?

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It has been known for unscrupulous bartenders in holiday resorts to contaminate a good Scotch with DHMO, criminal!

wat er load of bollocks,


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Apparently there are also plans to put DiHydrogen Monoxide in the water too!! They think we'll never notice!! Do they think we are idiots??


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Raise you :popcorn:

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handy wrote:
Trattoria Blairentino, if you are starting a campaign against hazardous substances, perhaps start with DiHydrogen Monoxide. Oh, please, won't somebody think of the children.


I've seen that so many times but it still cracks me up. The best part is if you follow their links to real sites liek Greenpeace, you can immediately find pages of hysterical scare stories exactly like the DHMO one, such as this. (I guess if I want to stay healthy, I'll have to eat my other computer, the paper one that doesn't contain any plastic or solder.)


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