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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 09:08 
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I've noticed it too. An ordinary screw thread which now has a "click" at the end of its travel to provide positive, tactile feedback that the cap has been tightened - in order to further enhance your daily dental hygiene experience! And of course, before that, the top, er, "stopping" did exactly the same thing! What next? Your very own Colgate torque wrench to ensure you tighten the cap sufficiently?! Worse than that, I find (particularly as the tube gets less full, the body of the tube simply doesn't have the stiffness to resist the torque necessary to overcome the "click" - so you then have to try and grab it by the neck - but the cap is the same diameter as the neck, which makes that difficut too)
Yes! So I’m not going mad after all. I think it’s only engineers who see these things for what, crap, they are. Everyone else thinks “oh that’s new” without thinking whether it’s better. I think I’ll get ‘turbo’ tattooed on my soldier and see if my sex life improves. Come on girls, look at my new iNob.

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[Another of my pet hates are the Castrol oil containers that don't have screw tops. They are virtually impossible to open and close without ripping at least one fingernail off its nail bed. They're also impossible to tilt sideways like a conventional can with a round hole at the top, because of the stupid spout design (so you have to pour from a great height and get oil all over your engine when the can is neary full) AND the bloody spout doesn't even prevent drips anyway! :headbash: :headbash: :headbash: I can't even imagine it being cheaper to produce. It's one of the few innovations that (as far as I can see) offers not one single advantage over what it replaced.
We’re very much on the same page Mole. :bow:

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These are the work, more often than not, of so-called "product designers". These are not engineers, they are "product designers - a quite different discipline. They're usually frothy-headed arts graduates who are overly fond of spouting the mantra "form follows function" at you - and then doing the precise opposite! :headbash: :headbash: :headbash: (\victormeldrewmode\: off)
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They should be strung up by their balls! :x I'm only surprised they have so much influence over the engineers and common sense..

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 09:41 
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Yes! So I’m not going mad after all. I think it’s only engineers who see these things for what, crap, they are. Everyone else thinks “oh that’s new” without thinking whether it’s better. I think I’ll get ‘turbo’ tattooed on my soldier and see if my sex life improves. Come on girls, look at my new iNob.


Hmmm. er, (cough), let me know if it works, won't you? :wink:

Actually, I was examining my toothpaste tube this morning and I might have to eat (only a small helping) of humble pie.

First of all, I use Sensodyne, but the tube is the same. So that's the first problem. There may be very few tube manufacturers and some brands may be forced to adopt a sh1te design of tube because it's widely available and therefore cheaper.

Secondly, my tube has a screw thread on the top, but it's a triple-start thread - so effectively three separate screw threads wound round each other. That means you only need to turn the cap 1/3 of a turn to close it, which, I suppose, SOME might regard as an advantage over the traditional cap which might need a WHOLE turn - maybe EVEN more!? The downside of such a coarse thread is that it would come off again just as easily. You can't get as much clamping force with a coarse thread as you can with a fine thread, and I suppose that for various health regulations, the plastics they're allowed to use to make the cap and tube are pretty low-friction, so the top would be forever coming off. The solution, therefore, was to build in a little "clicky" at the end of the thread to prevent the top from unscrewing itself whilst still enhancing your daily dental hygiene experience by saving you the time AND effort required to turn the cap a whole 360 (or more!) degrees.

Pure speculation on my part, of course, but often there are reasons that the public don't see.

Mind you, (and rather like electric handbrakes) I still see it as a situation that offers some advantages, but also brings some disadvantages and, in my particular set of circumstances, the disadvantages still just slightly outweigh the advantages.

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Mole wrote:
These are the work, more often than not, of so-called "product designers". These are not engineers, they are "product designers - a quite different discipline. They're usually frothy-headed arts graduates who are overly fond of spouting the mantra "form follows function" at you - and then doing the precise opposite! :headbash: :headbash: :headbash: (\victormeldrewmode\: off)
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They should be strung up by their balls! :x I'm only surprised they have so much influence over the engineers and common sense..
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I'm not sure they have them.... :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:00 
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Any chance of splitting this thread into "electric park brakes" & "pointless features" ?


Any chance of splitting this thread into "electric park brakes", "pointless features" & "toothpaste dynamics" ?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:03 
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Mine’s not Colgate, like I mentioned, I used the name as an example. I can’t remember what it is because I’m looking through a ball of fog last thing at night, first thing in the morning. But it’s something being adopted by many of them. They got it right for the longest time with the cap being attached and you just flick it up, like a Jif lemon bottle only larger. You flicked it up and flicked it back down. It was quick, easy, efficient and can’t be lost like the screw cap version. And then they changed it.

The indicators used to be quick, easy, efficient and you couldn’t get lost in a battle to turn it off. And then they changed it.

The boot used to be quick, easy, efficient and you couldn’t get lost in a battle to open it. And then they changed it.

I see a theme developing here! Also, I don’t personally see the exceptions of old being a rule that they were all bad back then, especially when the modern stuff is equally bad - by design! :doh:

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I think I’ll get ‘turbo’ tattooed on my soldier and see if my sex life improves. Come on girls, look at my new iNob.
Hmmm. er, (cough), let me know if it works, won't you? :wink:
I’m sure you don’t need any gimmick big Mole :wink: :lol:

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Any chance of splitting this thread into "electric park brakes" & "pointless features" ?

Any chance of splitting this thread into "electric park brakes", "pointless features" & "toothpaste dynamics" ?
Sorry ed, my apologies. Since the o/p didn’t take the topic seriously, (come back to debate the issue), I looked at “pointless features”. No offence or irritation was intended. I'll bow out now..

Add: You asked the o/p four pertinent questions two weeks ago ed, on page 1. He didn't answer you and disappeared like a fart in the wind. :scratchchin: or as you put it well.. :popcorn:

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Any chance of splitting this thread into "electric park brakes" & "pointless features" ?


Any chance of splitting this thread into "electric park brakes", "pointless features" & "toothpaste dynamics" ?

This is now done.
The original thread is here.


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thanks... makes it easier to avoid tone's ranting :wink:


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