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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:26 
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I had a 407 as a temporary hire car and found the speed limiter to be useful on the M42 VSL.

But it was only useful from a compliance point of view not a safety one.

I've tried cruise control on the same stretch and to be honest its pretty deadly.


Good point. But what if someone has another 3 points and they have their license pulled?

And only have cruise control? It would be very tempting...

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I only ever use cruise control:

* On a quiet motorway when I want to take it easy. Set the cruise to 75mph or so and just steer.

* Through a SPECS zone. No explanation needed!

If it's busy then cruise is impossible as you keep having to turn it off as you gain on another vehicle.

My current car (2006 A4 Quattro SE) has it. None of my previous cars have done but I'd driven cars with it before.

I use it sometimes but wouldn't miss it if the car didn't have it. (Except in SPECS zones!)

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Don't all cruise control systems have + and - buttons to adjust speed? All the ones I have seen do, and if I use one I'm constantly fiddling with it. Gives my foot a rest which is nice. :)

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Ziltro wrote:
Don't all cruise control systems have + and - buttons to adjust speed? All the ones I have seen do, and if I use one I'm constantly fiddling with it. Gives my foot a rest which is nice. :)


Yeah, same here. I've only ever really used cruise control as an 'intelligent hand throttle'.

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I very rarely use it.

every so often I use it in SPECS controlled zones but I'm just not a fan. I think I just feel I've lost a bit of control, I don't find the hand controls to be responsive enough.


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To get the buttons to work quickly you sometimes have to hold them down, sometimes press repeatedly very quickly and sometimes press repeatedly slowly. It depends how the system works.
But usually you do have to think ahead and plan a little more in advance. Not that that is a bad thing. You can even be ready with your foot near the brake if you need to.

The only time I've used it for a reason other than playing about or because my foot was tired has been to overtake police cars.
I haven't encountered SPECS yet. I don't want to. I'd rather take my front numberplate off.

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I used to have a C4 with cruise control and limiter, I liked them a lot set the limiter and it doesn't allow you to exceed the speed (you still need to control the throttle) but if you need to move, a firm, definate press on the gas and it cancels.

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OK I expected to get some comments about my use of cruise control at 30, so I wasnt too disapointed there, but after reading the assumptions about my driving experiance I thaught I would give the facts.

I have held a full car licence for around 29 years and a bike licence for around 13.

I have had a car with cruise control for 2 years so have been driving without cruise control for around 27 years.

To date I have not had a speeding conviction and the reason for this probably has a great deal to do with luck.

So if I can drive at 30 without cruise control then why do I use it? You could ask why drive an automatic if you have a licence for a manual (yes thats me again). With the cruise on I dont need to look at the speedo, I could if I wanted to, but I dont have to

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I drive a Peugeot 407 it has speed control and cruse control. I use the speed control in cities and towns or locations were the speed limit is below 40. I find that driving around cities and towns is a constant battle to watch out for the traffic Taliban.

There are too many gardens, walls, vehicles and other locations the traffic Taliban hide in or around to catch the unsuspecting motorist.

I hate the thought of giving Brown and this discredited government or any government any more money in tax.
So if I piss drivers off doing 30 or 40, then I’m sorry but the thought of giving this government anymore of my hard earned cash revolts me and is my motivation.

Let me ask this question, if there are 25 million motorists on the road in the UK and the majority of these motorists made there way to the polling station at the next general election or council election and instead of marking their ballot with an “X” at the usual suspects, but instead wrote on the ballot paper: “We the motorists of this United Kingdom demand justice for the motorist, and until we receive justice in Speeding, Parking and Congestion Charging we will continue to abstain from this and all other irrelevant polls until we get the respect and justice we require as British motorist” (Or words to that effect).

Can you imagine the sh1t that would hit the fan, if millions of motorist were to take this action? I can almost hear the politicos scrambling to redress the unfair laws that burden the UK motorist.

Bring on the Revolution!!!!


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ranger1640 wrote:

Let me ask this question, if there are 25 million motorists on the road in the UK and the majority of these motorists made there way to the polling station at the next general election or council election and instead of marking their ballot with an “X” at the usual suspects, but instead wrote on the ballot paper: “We the motorists of this United Kingdom demand justice for the motorist, and until we receive justice in Speeding, Parking and Congestion Charging we will continue to abstain from this and all other irrelevant polls until we get the respect and justice we require as British motorist” (Or words to that effect).


Nice thought - but in reality all that would happen is that those paperswould be marked as "SPOILED" and disregarded.

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Can you imagine the sh1t that would hit the fan, if millions of motorist were to take this action? I can almost hear the politicos scrambling to redress the unfair laws that burden the UK motorist.



The only way that any politician of any party would sit up and take notice is if an Independent[/quote] were to throw his/her hat into the ring declaring the interests of the motorist and asking for motoring support , preferably standing in
Kirkaldy(Golden Brown)
Edinburgh south west( Darling)
Normanton (Ed Balls)
or South Shields.(Milliband)

Thats where a loss of one or more MPs would hit Nu Labia and might just make the rest of the political world sit up and take notice.

Till then - or until we get as active as the French - bend over and prepare to get shafted yet again. :roll:

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"It must be very tempting for someone fearing for their license to think: "Oh, bother it! I'll shove the cruise control on 30!"

That might annoy another driver. But they might keep their license. That's probably how they see it."
- Quoted from User "Thatsnews" Page 1, 2 from bottom

I have had cruise control once in Seat and never used it in a 30, I've driven down the motorway at 70 with CC on and felt completely at ease due to the different method of driving, personally I'd say there is more risk using CC in a 30 as your mind does switch off slightly more than If you weren't using CC.

Sorry i disagree with the quote above CC is dangerous in a 30 as concentration on speed deteriorates and the hazards increase, But I do agree the driver might fear for there license, but with CC the driver will be slower to respond maybe due to becoming slightly Complacent.

I'm sure there are enough success stories about CC in 30's as long as the drivers spatial awareness and hazard perception increases there shouldn't be an issue but IMHO its not worth the effort there is a potential risk to peds and other road users!

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I wonder how common manual + cruise control is?


Ive got a 14 year old SAAB 9000 manual with cruise that officially only works above 30MPH. Mine is a bit intermittent at times but I can get it to engage in 5th gear at about 27MPH.

I also have a setable excess speed warning set to 145KPH (everything else does MPH but not the clock and EDU!)

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