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He also seems to be posting bogus messages claiming to come from "Paul Smith"

He gives the impression of being somewhat deranged - certainly the concept of open and polite debate is totally alien to him.

IMV his exclusion from this forum was a case of good riddance.

IIRC this occured about six months ago.

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It is true that I banned him. I tried really hard to get him to accept community norms - we try to keep the standard of discussion high and the tone reasonably polite. I sent him various messages asking him to take it easy, but sadly he didn't respond positively. I ran out of alternatives and reluctantly banned him.

I followed the link you provided but I didn't find: "all sorts of anti-road pro speed camera stuff".

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The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Try this link - Paul

http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?f ... 1125698210

This one is purported to be from a paul smith of safespeeds ??

http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?f ... 1125700493


Now there is a strange comment on the bottom of the page,

"Visitors are requested to keep their posts "legal, decent and honest" and comply with the normal rules of society and web netiquette. Visitors are fully responsible for their own posts and any consequences thereof. However, whilst accepting no responsibility for same, I reserve the right to remove any posts I happen to come across that I feel might be "dubious". The contents of any posts, or websites linked from any posts or any pages on this or related websites do not neccesarily reflect the views or opinions of the forum owner. All copyrights, trademarks, etc, acknowledged "

I wonder who you really are, Georgeda?

I certainly know dozens of your aliases from my forum.

Especially variations of bogush.

And, of course, "Paul Smith"

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Strange that "certain" of my detractors are fond of using the term bogus in reference to myself.

Under various of their aliases.

And where have I posted any messages, bogus or otherwise, purporting to come from Paul Smith?



Well, thank you for that helpful example of how the concept of open and polite debate is put into practice on this forum, Peter, dahling.



Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Wasn't you who made the three complaints, perchance?

In fact, you weren't my dear old friend "Helen" were you?

In fact, now you mention it, she seemed to have a bee in her bonnet about me being deranged too.

Just like you!

And didn't you object to me being included in Roadweb (something to do with me lowering the tone, or some such?).

And isn't it a strange co-incidence that you should have jumped straight into this thread and answered "Georgeda"?

If I were a cynic I'd start getting all conspiracy theorist at this point.

Ever wondered why I don't like the sCamera Partnerships and the Speed Kills spin?

It's because I hate liars.

I hate control freaks.

And I hate hypocrites even more.

Many's the time I read one of your posts, especially to the sCamera Man you wanted me to go easy on, and was astounded and shocked by your rudeness. I would never have dreamed of posting some of the posts you have posted.

And I've seen far worse posts than yours.

But perhaps the posters have paid for the privilege of being rude on your "classy" forum.

I note that two of "Helen's" three posts are still up on your board.

Oh, and Peter E's up above seems to fall within your guidelines for community norms of high standards of discussion reasonably polite tone.

So that tells us exactly what standards you have:

None whatsoever.




As I recall (for obvious reasons I'm not in a position to check) you asked me to consider going easy to avoid scaring off a particular individual.

And when, not having even seen the pm, I made some posts (none to that individual as far as I can recall), you started deleting my posts.

No doubt for having the audacity not to have banned myself for having been such a naughty boy as to not have gone the extra mile and picked up your pm by telepathy and then stopped posting entirely.

And then when I queried the post deletion in pm and then post (as they had all been ignored) you banned me for, it would appear, not submitting to your control-freakery.


Did you ever, as I requested, publish the pm and deleted post exchanges so that the world could judge?

No?

Now why doesn't that surprise me?




Strange, but if you had followed the link you would have found "all sorts of anti-road pro speed camera stuff".

Just not posted by me.

Apologies (see how polite I am, and how I always acknowledge when I am in the wrong!).

This has to be some kind of joke post, yes?

A spoof of some kind?

Irony?!


Deranged - polite debate!

Hahahahahaha!


Open debate - his exclusion from this forum was a case of good riddance!

Classic!

Apologies again (see how polite I am!)




How remiss of me (there I go again).

And I hate censorship and book burning.

Apt logo then!

lauren o'dare is actually bogush. He even admits it in one of his posts.

In just one of my posts.

How clever of you to spot it then.

Doh!

I suppose I'm gonna get banned again.

For making yet another "confrontational and acidic" post.


Hey, guess what:

Here on planet earth we call that stating the bleedin' obvious.


Just like in my previous post!


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

So that moderator (who also banned me).

That decided I rubbed up people the wrong way.

Because I held up a mirror to them.

And they didn't like what they saw.


Might have been right all along.


The truth hurts!

nOW AS FAR AS THE SOCIAL GLUE - JJ has come unstuck

Where's all this getting us? Why we're agruning the toss, he scamerati have made another million. Surely we should be concentrating on what really matters.

As long as Bogush is supporting the anti-camera cause the pro-camera, pro-taxation mob are laughing all the way to the bank.

He just causes bad feeling and divides everyone.

You should see his site and the work he does on the BBC Nottingham discussion group. If it wasn't so serious it'd be laughable.

Ad hominem attacks are banned on these forums.

Accordingly this is your first and final warning.

I also believe that you are here to promote conflict and I shall be watching any further posts very closely.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Good Evening Georgeda, if you're out there readingt this.

As ever, I'm always here to lend a helping hand, whenever you need it.


If you don't understand the term ad hominem attacks, it's posting stuff like, errrmmm, what can I use as an example?


Oh, I know:

Stuff like this:



And people wonder how I've become brainwashed into thinking I'm always right.


All the best until we meet again, Georgeda.

I shall be looking forward to the occasion.

I do so enjoy our little electronic chats.

Thank you Bogush - at least I make you happy.

Umm, it's not an ad hominem attack if it is referring to someone who is not a forum member. Otherwise a lot of people who have made disparaging comments about Brunstrom would have been banned.

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

That's absolutely true Peter and you make a good point. So please Paul why have you given me a final warning when I was referring to someone who is not a member - the same Bogush being referred to by our mutual friend Peter?

Duh?

Where did you find that definition then?



Double Duh?

Yet another logical fallacy.

I suppose the fact that Georgeda got a warning proves that bogush hasn't been banned after all?

What an interesting forum this is.

Chemically enhanced perhaps?