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So I was reversing my car onto the driveway the other day and by brother (9 years old) is standing in the doorway with his sodding t shirt pulled over his nose! And I say in a brotherly fashion "Why are you doing that you silly twat" and he goes "Well the C.O. 2 is bad for me" I obviously know where the little sh*t got that from! It's getting bad I tell ya. This is the next generation don't forget. By the time they are my age they will be an army of sodding eco worriors! 'Tis depressing

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You might want to remind him what he is exhaling, then he might not be so quick to trap that air around his nose
(and it's not like the fabric of a t-shirt will actually prevent a gas from passing through ...)

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If I had kids and they started whingeing about the "environment" I'd refuse to drive them anywhere

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I'm far too old now to have much contact with young children (all my nephews etc are all grown up) but I get the impression that the main learning aim in schools these days is less about reading, writing, 'rithmitic and history and more on green issues, that evil monster called the motorist (who wants no more than to run over every small child in the land, by going everywhere in excess of 20MPH) and his snorting dragon (the car).

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

I'm sure I overheard a rather hippy mum (hardly a rarity in Dorset) telling her tribe of kids that CO2 was bad for the trees and the flowers recently.

I felt like correcting her - and pointing out how dangerous population growth was too, but I'm not the preachy type.

Going back a decade, this whole "green" nonsense was reserved for people on the fringes of society, it is unfortunate that it has spread like the disease it is to the kids of today. You know what my counter is? It is all about high compression, high power and high emissions Some days I wish I was in something more obnoxious looking than my fairly high emissions yet humble Peugeot 306. I am eventually gonna have a garage full of my fleet of cars but that is for another thread...

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I hope you were fully CRB checked before being allowed to operate a car in the vicinity of your 9yr old brother.

My 7 year old nephew has been so indoctrinated not to eat fat the school sent him home with a leter stating he is under weight. He looks just like me at 7.
40 years later he will be bald and overweight too!

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Been going on for years

Remember in the 70's ,my sister and my nephew came to visit . On taking them to the station ,young nephew was heard to say "why doesen't uncle B wear a seatbelt ,mum " .(And I know she wasn't one to drum it into him ,when he was home from boarding school)

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Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

The part of your post after the bit in brackets certainly demonstrates the truth of the opening phrase

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

I am really getting sick of this schools indoctrinating shite. I am a teacher of science (secondary), I do not indoctrinate to my pupils (primary may be different, but primary teachers are strange anyway).You also forget that below 11-12 years children see things in black and white anyway…it is only as they get older do they see shades of grey between black and white. If the truth be told by the time the get to year 11 they are fed up with being lectured too. They get it forced down their throats by the media. Admittedly the GCSE course (biology/chemistry) is slightly geared towards environmentalism. If you are a decent teacher you will give them the opportunity to see both sides of the argument. Most science teachers should be skeptical anyway. The argument there is a good scientist should always be skeptical.

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Yeah, my (then) 10 and 5 year olds told me how bad cars were so I said "OK, today we'll get up early and walk to school". That's about 3 miles. It was chucking it down in true Cumbrian style. About half way down the drive (of the house, not the school!) they decided that cars weren't so bad after all....

Funny thing though, when I was 9 we were worried about the next ice age.

Shame we didn't know about the magic method of warming the earth up back then.

That was the so-called "nuclear winter" theory - the effect on climate of exploding a lot of nuclear weapons. Since glastnost we can stop worrying about that. Untill someone proposes ex ploding a lot of nukes to prevent global warming

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

Not sure about that.

Back in the 70's there seemed to be general scaremongering about ice sheets spreading and glaciers getting longer.

The NW thing was, IIRC , a red herring brought up by Carl Sagen (It is perfectly possible to use Nukes in a way that would not cause a "Nuclear Winter", though it would mean avoiding certain types of strike)

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Nope, it was a genuine, mother nature imposed "ice age" - i think that it was Horizon back in the 70s (before it dumbed down) that had a programme detailing the possibility (or probability at the time) of an imminent new ice age. Prolly before most Alarmists were born

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That was what prompted discussions about sending soot into the atmosphere to compensate for it.

I should point out that this global cooling claim wasn't taken very seriously by scientists/climatologists at the time (the media hyped it ) - IIRC it was based around only 1 short published paper (I think I've actually read it, there wasn't much to read).

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