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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 16:23 
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I am looking out the window at a hospital road with a speed limit sign of 5mph.

Now no-one, I hope, would think that driving fast on a hospital road is sensible.

However, what a waste of signage. I mean 5mph.
For a start most speedometers do not start registering until about 8mph.
Also, this sort of private road is where you want the driver watching people crossing the road unexpectedly, children etc. not speedo watching.

I see these stupid speed limits in private roads all over the place and I am sure they have not contributed to safety one little bit.

Drivers will drive sensibly in these situations, apart from your usual reckless dopes. The type who will not pay a blind bit of notice to the limit anyway.

So please , what is the point?

Anyone else feel the same?


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I think such limits are actually yet another victim of the current barmy regime.

In the past, a factory site or a hospital would put a 5mph limit up as a sort of "proxy". In reality what it meant was "drive slowly and with great care", rather than simply "drive at 5mph". Indeed, as someone else pointed out, if you actually obeyed it to the letter, pedestrians would think you were stalking them!

But nowadays, with speed limits being used as much for political "anti car" purposes as for any sort of useful safety benefit, the message they give out is more like "obey this limit with numeric precision, else some little Hitler will take delight in taxing you".

As such, the traditional "drive carefully" message that "5" gave out has been lost in the mists of time, and all it leaves behind is the vacuum of a ludicrous unenforcable speed limit. It's a shame really.

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FERGUS GLENCROSS wrote:
However, what a waste of signage. I mean 5mph.


If 5mph road signs are the thing that most troubles and annoys you, then rejoice! You are a very lucky man indeed, Fergus.

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Point taken!


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Still annoys me though!


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"some little Hitler will take delight in taxing you"


A certain (lying) 'speed nazi' will take exception to that. :shock:

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FERGUS GLENCROSS wrote:
I am looking out the window at a hospital road with a speed limit sign of 5mph.

Now no-one, I hope, would think that driving fast on a hospital road is sensible.

However, what a waste of signage. I mean 5mph.
For a start most speedometers do not start registering until about 8mph.
Also, this sort of private road is where you want the driver watching people crossing the road unexpectedly, children etc. not speedo watching.

I see these stupid speed limits in private roads all over the place and I am sure they have not contributed to safety one little bit.

Drivers will drive sensibly in these situations, apart from your usual reckless dopes. The type who will not pay a blind bit of notice to the limit anyway.

So please , what is the point?

Anyone else feel the same?


We've had them for ages in hospital car parks - ( and Wildy's firm also has 5 mph signs in the car park.).

No scams enforcing and majority of drivers adhere to a safe speed in our car parks . (Cannot say same for cyclists though :wink: :roll: Or folks on foot .... :roll: :wink: )

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Cottam Power Station (near to Rampton, so this may explain it) has a posted speed limit of:





14.5mph

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Dratsabasti wrote:
Cottam Power Station (near to Rampton, so this may explain it) has a posted speed limit of:





14.5mph


Does anybody know why? Doesn't even look like it's a metric conversion. :?

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Gatsobait wrote:
Dratsabasti wrote:
Cottam Power Station (near to Rampton, so this may explain it) has a posted speed limit of:





14.5mph


Does anybody know why? Doesn't even look like it's a metric conversion. :?


I think it's 12.5mph or 13mph converted from 20km/h - we discussed it before didn't we?

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Disneyland California has an on-site speed limit of 14mph!
Perhaps someone has calculated that 1mph reduction increases your chances of survival by 99.999999999999999999999999999999%

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That last link says it all.

I have seen sites in front of buildings, eg an old folks home, which are no more than drop off points and about 10m max. with these speed limits.

The point for me is what are these people thinking? Who are they? Do they genuinely think they are improving safety?


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JT wrote:
if you actually obeyed it to the letter, pedestrians would think you were stalking them!

Or You'll Get Arrested for Kerb Crawling !! :?

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I think it's 12.5mph or 13mph converted from 20km/h - we discussed it before didn't we?
That's make sense. 14.5mph ends up as 22ish kmh, which is why I couldn't understand it. Or maybe it's because someone thinks that 12.5 mph is precisely one quarter as dangerous as fifty? :lol:

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Are we going round in circles - this topic was covered some months ago - ingear might remember his reply bout nips etc - the idea was that 5mph meant "bloody slow" , you might meet mr suing person


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Regarding the 14.5mph site limit,

I've worked on a reasonable number of different industrial sites and the larger ones have become aware that many contractors, while reasonably intelligent, work on so many sites that the various safety induction videos and site speed limits tend to merge and details get forgotten. Putting up an unusual limit gets attention and will tend to be adhered to more than, say, a 15mph limit would.


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There is a large shopping estate in Lincoln which has the 5mph signs and speed humps as well.
I would rather drivers are watching for people than speedo watching as around here people just wander out into the road thining as it s a cr park they can!!
I tried driving at 5mph and the mondeo TDCi i had didn't register anything till about 10mph!

Ah well.


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