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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:31 
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One of the things to strike me about the latest bomb discoveries in London was that the car with the second device was towed to the pound before the bomb was discovered.

Most juicy target buildings (popular and full with people) are surrounded by draconian parking restrictions and thus anyone leaving a car bomb outside for more than a few seconds will be detected and the car removed. So the ludicrous parking enforcement we now have is actually a security measure. :)

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It may protect but, at the risk of telling a terrorist how to do his job, might I suggest that a trembler switch would let the enforcement people fire the bomb up themselves.

One or two of those and towaway schemes would be in shreds (in more ways than one).

NB I am not seriously suggesting this to any terrorists who may be lurking (MI5 please note).

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Not completely unrelated to Mally's post: what became of the letter bomber Miles Cooper?


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I dunno what happened to him.

Take comfort in the fact that I am neither him nor related to him. I do :-)

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:57 
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for anyone believing the terrorist angle this is a worthwhile read:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:16 
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johnsher wrote:
for anyone believing the terrorist angle this is a worthwhile read:

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I see. And the next question is: Did it have a detonator (or any means of ignition)?

This whole thing - life in Britain in 2007 I mean - is starting to play like a bad movie plot.

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Hmm.
If the device HAD actually 'gone off' I don't suppose it would have made much difference to anyone close enough to have been fatally affected whether it was the work of a pucka terrorist or a bungling amateur.
I am led to wonder just what the security services are supposed to do and say in such circumstances :?

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Most people would probably have looked in the car and seen the gas cylinders, nails and petrol and thought "Bloody Polish builders on the night shift again." :)

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malcolmw wrote:
One of the things to strike me about the latest bomb discoveries in London was that the car with the second device was towed to the pound before the bomb was discovered.

Most juicy target buildings (popular and full with people) are surrounded by draconian parking restrictions and thus anyone leaving a car bomb outside for more than a few seconds will be detected and the car removed. So the ludicrous parking enforcement we now have is actually a security measure. :)


On the contrary, I can't think of a worse scenario. What if it were explosives, designed to trigger with a mercury or anti-tamper switch for example. What if it were being towed through a busy shopping center? The last thing you'd want to do with any form of explosive, especially where it is volatile, is move it.


Lastly, It is clear to me, that good old fashioned forensics will invariably resolve this matter, if of course something more sinister's not afoot. So why all the ANPR and CCTV then?


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wayneo wrote:
Lastly, It is clear to me, that good old fashioned forensics will invariably resolve this matter, if of course something more sinister's not afoot. So why all the ANPR and CCTV then?


You need ANPR and CCTV to control the citizen, given that most of them are crooks anyway.


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yeah, shame about their lousy bomb-making skills, if they'd have taken out westministers traffic warden HQ they'd probably have more fans than robbie williams by now.

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Funny how they never attack say, the Congestion Charge HQ.

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If the bomb had gone off and destroyed a tow away truck and the thugs inside it would anyone really be sad about that?


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Well, I'm not sure if I'd be very happy with that because the people doing the towing etc. are just lackeys who act as they do (thuggish, arrogant etc.) because they know the potentially violent backlash they will get if the vehicle owner comes along while they are in action and they have to show they are "harder than you".

It's the political bosses who are responsible. Now, if they drove the trucks ...

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Slightly off topic.

I heard that if you can get in the car prior to being towed they won't tow you. Apparently they tried it with someone and the driver phoned the police reporting that they were being kidnapped.

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malcolmw wrote:
Well, I'm not sure if I'd be very happy with that because the people doing the towing etc. are just lackeys who act as they do (thuggish, arrogant etc.) because they know the potentially violent backlash they will get if the vehicle owner comes along while they are in action and they have to show they are "harder than you".

It's the political bosses who are responsible. Now, if they drove the trucks ...


it's only because there are people willing to be satans little helpers that the system can exist, the scum that run the scheme would be powerless without them.

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wait till the English Suicide Bombers start their action!, revenge is so sweet

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j.prescott wrote:
wait till the English Suicide Bombers start their action!, revenge is so sweet

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