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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 09:40 
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Never before heard in public - an interview with Richard Brunstrom recorded last year by MCN:

Hook into the stream with this link: http://www.safespeed.org.uk/radio.pls

You need Winamp (great bit of software) from http://www.winamp.com

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Last time I tried to hook in here I got all sorts of messages telling me why I couldn't. In retrospect that was due to my works firewall system blocking it.

Quality here in Essex is Stength 10. This is a good service - and playing on Real Player.

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Roger wrote:
Last time I tried to hook in here I got all sorts of messages telling me why I couldn't. In retrospect that was due to my works firewall system blocking it.

Quality here in Essex is Stength 10. This is a good service - and playing on Real Player.

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Ha! I had no idea it worked with Real Player. Thanks.

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I just clicked the link and it booted up into "Real".

I think I want to open the content of that interview for wider discussion (not the radio aspect, the content). There were one or two things that RB said that I think are worthy of some open-minded exploration. Shall I just start a new one in "General", Paul or do you want another place?


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Open the new thread in any forum you deem suitable for the subject.

Thanks for asking. :)

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Done :-) http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewt ... 2796#32796


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With "Real", about one in ten attempts to open the system by clicking the link gives
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however, clearing the error screen down reveals the player still open, and clicking the play button gets it going perfectly.


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Tried your suggestion Roger. When I click the link I just get
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[playlist]
NumberOfEntries=1
File1=http://server2.n3thosting.com:-25531/

If I open RealPlayer and click File>open>link I get an error message, but I still don't get anything when I OK it.
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It seems intermittent. It goes through spells - perhaps they were changing the film in it? :twisted:

I'm using build 6.0.11 of version 2.


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Nope, still no joy. 6.0.12 of RealPlayer 10 here. My cookie killer is going slightly batty while RealPlayer is on though, so maybe I need to do some fiddling with the settings. Or maybe it's a media type associated with something else. I'll just have to play around with it until it works or I have to calm down with a glass of something cold and a ciggie. :lol:

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There's a problem with net congestion. I'm getting timeouts on the link to the server - this means the stream drops from time to time, then the software reconnects it.

I'm experiencing net slowness on all services late afternoon and early evening today. I'm not sure what part of what link is getting the overloads. It may be contention on our broadband.

Anyone who's having problems with Real Player, please allow me to recommend Winamp. It's a much more friendly piece of software, far less aggressive and higher performing. But it doesn't matter how good the software is if there's not enough net bandwidth. :(

I'm going to try more compression on the uplink (lower quality, lower bandwidth).

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The server is sending a

Content-Type: text/plain

header for the .pls file which causes some browsers (ones that don't blindly trust file extensions as an indicator of mime-type) to just display the contents of the text file.

It should be:

Content-Type: audio/x-scpls


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I didn't *choose* real player - I just clicked on the link.

I'll download Winamp.


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Think I'll have to do likewise. <sighs> Half a dozen different bloody media players... you'd think one of them would play it. Maybe if it's that good I can get rid of some of the others.

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stive gonzales wrote:
The server is sending a

Content-Type: text/plain

header for the .pls file which causes some browsers (ones that don't blindly trust file extensions as an indicator of mime-type) to just display the contents of the text file.

It should be:

Content-Type: audio/x-scpls


Is it indeed? How's it doing that? How can I see it? As far as I can actually see, all the server is sending is a text file.

If it is wrong, how do I fix it?

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Is it indeed? How's it doing that? How can I see it? As far as I can actually see, all the server is sending is a text file.

If it is wrong, how do I fix it?


It is. I can see the mime-type sent by the server because I use Opera 8 browser and it displays the text file - which tells me that it's text/plain in its handy little Info panel. I also use a content-filtering proxy called Proxomitron which allows me to view the headers that the server sends.

The reason I looked is that not using Internet Explorer I see this sort of thing all the time - click link, file opens as text file. The reason it's happening is that .pls is not a really common playlist format and a standard Apache installation has no definition for what it is. Apache, having no alternative, defaults to text/plain since not sending a Content-Type header is a bit of a no-no.

If you have control over the server (I'm guessing not) you can add
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AddType audio/x-scpls .pls

to the http.conf (or a separate mime-types file depending on how Apache is set up on that machine)

Otherwise, if the server permits .htaccess files, you can add the same line to (or create) the .htaccess file in the root directory of your site.

Ultimately it's probably only an issue for those of us who don't use Internet Explorer.

Did that make sense?


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stive gonzales wrote:
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Is it indeed? How's it doing that? How can I see it? As far as I can actually see, all the server is sending is a text file.

If it is wrong, how do I fix it?


It is. I can see the mime-type sent by the server because I use Opera 8 browser and it displays the text file - which tells me that it's text/plain in its handy little Info panel. I also use a content-filtering proxy called Proxomitron which allows me to view the headers that the server sends.

The reason I looked is that not using Internet Explorer I see this sort of thing all the time - click link, file opens as text file. The reason it's happening is that .pls is not a really common playlist format and a standard Apache installation has no definition for what it is. Apache, having no alternative, defaults to text/plain since not sending a Content-Type header is a bit of a no-no.

If you have control over the server (I'm guessing not) you can add
Code:
AddType audio/x-scpls .pls

to the http.conf (or a separate mime-types file depending on how Apache is set up on that machine)

Otherwise, if the server permits .htaccess files, you can add the same line to (or create) the .htaccess file in the root directory of your site.

Ultimately it's probably only an issue for those of us who don't use Internet Explorer.

Did that make sense?


Thanks. perfect sense. I've done the .htaccess thing. Is it right now?

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Thanks. perfect sense. I've done the .htaccess thing. Is it right now?

Perfect.


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